[Ostrava] Transportation - Page 2

tersyxus · January 27th, 2008, 02:46 PM

I guess they will rent them. If they plan to operate international railway lines too, it can even be profitable. But you're right, paying the rent and maintenance costs and railway-usage fee gonna be pretty high for a relatively small company. Nevertheless, the bus branch won't go bankrupt for a while, it has a great future providing lower prices than lowcost airlines.

***Qwert*** · January 27th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X236K

Actualy there is no private railway operator (correct me if I'm wrong) but one is on the way (Student Agency).

In one documentary on Czech TV I've seen something about little private operators on local railways. Unfotunately I don't remeber their names.

X236K · January 27th, 2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwert

In one documentary on Czech TV I've seen something about little private operators on local railways. Unfotunately I don't remeber their names.

They're only talking. CD and Department of Traffic know that if they let any financially strong company go into the market, CD would go bankrupt. And they are forced to avoid this by unions.

***Qwert*** · January 27th, 2008, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X236K

They're only talking. CD and Department of Traffic know that if they let any financially strong company go into the market, CD would go bankrupt. And they are forced to avoid this by unions.

They actually showed trains operated by those private companies and I have to say those comapnies were small ussually led by some railway enthusiast so no real competition for ČD. They operated on railways in border regions which were abandoned by ČD due to low profits.

X236K · January 27th, 2008, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwert

They actually showed trains operated by those private companies and I have to say those comapnies were small ussually led by some railway enthusiast so no real competition for ČD. They operated on railways in border regions which were abandoned by ČD due to low profits.

You're right:

http://www.dnoviny.cz/zeleznicni-dop...i--regionovu-/

This is just a local exception.

As far as I know there is no long-distance private railway operator as well as there's no track where 2 operators compete each other.

isidor · January 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM

Well, there has almost been one last year - http://www.rtexpres.cz/ - operating between Prague and Ostrava (in competition with CD Pendolino), but some strange circumstances from the ministry of transport and CD apparently caused the company to retreat from it's plans. Hopefully Student Agency will be more successful.

geogregor · January 30th, 2008, 01:58 AM

Here is link to thread which I started some time ago about Ostrava airport.
It is part of transportation so we should write about in this thread.
How can I close the old one?
By the way any new connections coming to Ostrava?
Especially from UK?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=542503

geogregor · February 1st, 2008, 10:56 AM

On Czech railway forum I've seen City Elephant train sets.
Do I have a chance to get them from Cesky Tesin to Ostrava?
From railway timetable I see there are two connections.
Via Havirov and via Bohumin. Do you know on which connection I'm more likely to get City Elephant?
I really want to check these trains

X236K · February 1st, 2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geogregor

On Czech railway forum I've seen City Elephant train sets.
Do I have a chance to get them from Cesky Tesin to Ostrava?
From railway timetable I see there are two connections.
Via Havirov and via Bohumin. Do you know on which connection I'm more likely to get City Elephant?
I really want to check these trains

Sorry... have no idea...

Honza · February 2nd, 2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geogregor

On Czech railway forum I've seen City Elephant train sets.
Do I have a chance to get them from Cesky Tesin to Ostrava?
From railway timetable I see there are two connections.
Via Havirov and via Bohumin. Do you know on which connection I'm more likely to get City Elephant?
I really want to check these trains

Yes, you can get CityElephant from Český Těšín to Ostrava via Havířov. But there are only two train sets of this new cars so you must hoping that you get right one.

geogregor · February 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honza

Yes, you can get CityElephant from Český Těšín to Ostrava via Havířov. But there are only two train sets of this new cars so you must hoping that you get right one.

I will wait for them all day

geogregor · February 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM

I have read in some railway magazine here in London that Czech Railway finished new railway station in Ostrava, Ostrava Stodolna, together with modernization of some railway line.
I didn't see any news on Skyscraper City.

X236K · February 12th, 2008, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geogregor

I have read in some railway magazine here in London that Czech Railway finished new railway station in Ostrava, Ostrava Stodolna, together with modernization of some railway line.
I didn't see any news on Skyscraper City.

Station was opened last November:

Photo by Karel Furiš, vlaky.net

ov_79 · May 16th, 2008, 08:43 AM

There are two very unique railway stations. First, a distance between them is about 400 metres what means it is almost like two tram stops

. Second, their names are Ostrava-střed (center) and Ostrava-centrum (center)

. I like densy public transport

...

jazapp · May 16th, 2008, 09:56 AM

Ostrava is doing a very good job in their railway infrastructure. I like the new station' s simple and elegant design.

Kappa21 · May 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM

is that station Rail or Subway

Ostrava isnt big? Like 5th biggest city in the country?

Tramfreak · May 18th, 2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kappa21

is that station Rail or Subway

Ostrava isnt big? Like 5th biggest city in the country?

It's a rail station, Ostrava does not have a subway system, it has trams and trolleys.

It is the 3rd biggest city in Czech Republic with about 310000 inhabitants

ov_79 · July 24th, 2008, 11:41 AM

Honza, Y236k:

Nemáte někdo nějakou mapku či vizualizaci, jak bude vypadat Přívoz a Fifejdy až se dokončí přivaděč k dálnici od Mariánkohorské a okolí? Poněvadž se bude hodně bourat a kdoví co stavět. Třeba jestli se nezmění trolejbusové vedení a takové ty věci mě zajímají

. Ne že bych byl líný se k tomu prosurfovat sám, ale jsem

.

Kappa21:

Population ranking of Czech cities, TOP 50:

01. Praha 1,218,600
02. Brno 368,900
03. Ostrava 317,100
04. Plzeň 165,200
05. Liberec 104,100
06. Olomouc 102,300
07. Ústí nad Labem 98,700
08. Hradec Králové 96,200
09. České Budějovice 96,100
10. Pardubice 90,500
11. Havířov 84,200
12. Zlín 79,400
13. Kladno 71,700
14. Most 67,200
15. Karviná 64,300
16. Frýdek-Místek 60,200
17. Opava 60,200
18. Karlovy Vary 53,700
19. Teplice 53,600
20. Děčín 53,000
21. Jihlava 51,100
22. Chomutov 50,800
23. Prostějov 47,700
24. Přerov 47,300
25. Jablonec nad Nisou 46,300
26. Mladá Boleslav 45,800
27. Třebíč 38,700
28. Třinec 38,100
29. Česká Lípa 38,100
30. Tábor 36,200
31. Příbram 35,900
32. Znojmo 35,200
33. Orlová 34,900
34. Cheb 33,500
35. Trutnov 31,900
36. Kolín 30,800
37. Písek 29,900
38. Šumperk 29,500
39. Kroměříž 29,100
40. Vsetín 28,000
41. Nový Jičín 27,700
42. Litvínov 27,400
43. Valašské Meziříčí 27,300
44. Hodonín 26,400
45. Uherské Hradiště 26,300
46. Český Těšín 26,200
47. Krnov 25,600
48. Litoměřice 25,500
49. Břeclav 25,500
50. Sokolov 24,800

X236K · July 24th, 2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ov_79

Honza, Y236k:

Nemáte někdo nějakou mapku či vizualizaci, jak bude vypadat Přívoz a Fifejdy až se dokončí přivaděč k dálnici od Mariánkohorské a okolí? Poněvadž se bude hodně bourat a kdoví co stavět. Třeba jestli se nezmění trolejbusové vedení a takové ty věci mě zajímají

. Ne že bych byl líný se k tomu prosurfovat sám, ale jsem

.

Ja jsem liny nebyl, a presto jsem zadne vizualizace nenasel ani drive, ani ted.

Neco je tady: http://www.vpupraha.cz/pdf/prodlouzena_mistecka.pdf
A jinak doporucuju mapovy server MMO s uzemnim planem: http://gisova.ostrava.cz/webmaps/mapaup/viewer.htm

Obavam se, ze s vizualizacemi se nikdo nenamahal.

vlker · July 26th, 2008, 12:29 PM

Na rsd.cz je uvedeno docela hodně staveb v Ostravě a v okolí v přípravě a před zahájením.

PDF I/11 Ostrava Rudná - hranice okresu Ostrava Opava
S22,5/100 a S24,5/100 výstavba 2/2009 - 3/2012

PDF I/11 hranice okresu - Mokré Lazce,
S 22,5/80 výstavba 8/2008 - 3/2012

PDF I/67 Skřečoň - Bohumín (obchvat)
S9,5/50 a S11,5/80 výstavba 12/2008 - 6/2010

PDF I/56 Ostrava, prodloužená Místecká I. a II. stavba
MR24,5/80 výstavba 4/2008 - 11/2010

PDF I/11 Hrádek průtah
S11,5/80 s rezervou na rozšíření, výstavba 8/2008 - 8/2011

PDF I/11 a I/56 propojení silnic v Opavě
S11,5/80 výstavba 4/2008 - 2/2010

Jen bych si dovolil komentář - a na jižní moravě zas h*vno

January 27th, 2008, 02:46 PM	#21
tersyxus The downtown droid Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Budapest Posts: 3,458 Likes (Received): 1	I guess they will rent them. If they plan to operate international railway lines too, it can even be profitable. But you're right, paying the rent and maintenance costs and railway-usage fee gonna be pretty high for a relatively small company. Nevertheless, the bus branch won't go bankrupt for a while, it has a great future providing lower prices than lowcost airlines. __________________ ^ don't take me serious... was just kiddin'

July 24th, 2008, 11:41 AM	#38
ov_79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Šumperk & Brno, Czech rep. Posts: 1,049 Likes (Received): 4	Honza, Y236k: Nemáte někdo nějakou mapku či vizualizaci, jak bude vypadat Přívoz a Fifejdy až se dokončí přivaděč k dálnici od Mariánkohorské a okolí? Poněvadž se bude hodně bourat a kdoví co stavět. Třeba jestli se nezmění trolejbusové vedení a takové ty věci mě zajímají . Ne že bych byl líný se k tomu prosurfovat sám, ale jsem . Kappa21: Population ranking of Czech cities, TOP 50: 01. Praha 1,218,600 02. Brno 368,900 03. Ostrava 317,100 04. Plzeň 165,200 05. Liberec 104,100 06. Olomouc 102,300 07. Ústí nad Labem 98,700 08. Hradec Králové 96,200 09. České Budějovice 96,100 10. Pardubice 90,500 11. Havířov 84,200 12. Zlín 79,400 13. Kladno 71,700 14. Most 67,200 15. Karviná 64,300 16. Frýdek-Místek 60,200 17. Opava 60,200 18. Karlovy Vary 53,700 19. Teplice 53,600 20. Děčín 53,000 21. Jihlava 51,100 22. Chomutov 50,800 23. Prostějov 47,700 24. Přerov 47,300 25. Jablonec nad Nisou 46,300 26. Mladá Boleslav 45,800 27. Třebíč 38,700 28. Třinec 38,100 29. Česká Lípa 38,100 30. Tábor 36,200 31. Příbram 35,900 32. Znojmo 35,200 33. Orlová 34,900 34. Cheb 33,500 35. Trutnov 31,900 36. Kolín 30,800 37. Písek 29,900 38. Šumperk 29,500 39. Kroměříž 29,100 40. Vsetín 28,000 41. Nový Jičín 27,700 42. Litvínov 27,400 43. Valašské Meziříčí 27,300 44. Hodonín 26,400 45. Uherské Hradiště 26,300 46. Český Těšín 26,200 47. Krnov 25,600 48. Litoměřice 25,500 49. Břeclav 25,500 50. Sokolov 24,800 Last edited by ov_79; July 24th, 2008 at 02:04 PM.

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January 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM	#26
isidor Unregistered user Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kosice/Prague Posts: 1,372 Likes (Received): 2	Well, there has almost been one last year - http://www.rtexpres.cz/ - operating between Prague and Ostrava (in competition with CD Pendolino), but some strange circumstances from the ministry of transport and CD apparently caused the company to retreat from it's plans. Hopefully Student Agency will be more successful.

January 30th, 2008, 01:58 AM	#27
geogregor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jastrzebie(PL)Wroclaw(PL)London(UK) Posts: 5,505 Likes (Received): 35	Here is link to thread which I started some time ago about Ostrava airport. It is part of transportation so we should write about in this thread. How can I close the old one? By the way any new connections coming to Ostrava? Especially from UK? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=542503

February 1st, 2008, 10:56 AM	#28
geogregor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jastrzebie(PL)Wroclaw(PL)London(UK) Posts: 5,505 Likes (Received): 35	On Czech railway forum I've seen City Elephant train sets. Do I have a chance to get them from Cesky Tesin to Ostrava? From railway timetable I see there are two connections. Via Havirov and via Bohumin. Do you know on which connection I'm more likely to get City Elephant? I really want to check these trains

February 11th, 2008, 11:31 PM	#32
geogregor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jastrzebie(PL)Wroclaw(PL)London(UK) Posts: 5,505 Likes (Received): 35	I have read in some railway magazine here in London that Czech Railway finished new railway station in Ostrava, Ostrava Stodolna, together with modernization of some railway line. I didn't see any news on Skyscraper City.

May 16th, 2008, 08:43 AM	#34
ov_79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Šumperk & Brno, Czech rep. Posts: 1,049 Likes (Received): 4	There are two very unique railway stations. First, a distance between them is about 400 metres what means it is almost like two tram stops . Second, their names are Ostrava-střed (center) and Ostrava-centrum (center) . I like densy public transport ...

May 16th, 2008, 09:56 AM	#35
jazapp Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 251 Likes (Received): 0	Ostrava is doing a very good job in their railway infrastructure. I like the new station' s simple and elegant design.

May 18th, 2008, 05:38 AM	#36
Kappa21 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 6,663 Likes (Received): 159	is that station Rail or Subway Ostrava isnt big? Like 5th biggest city in the country?

July 26th, 2008, 12:29 PM	#40
vlker VUT Brno in SSC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brno, Czech republic Posts: 294 Likes (Received): 0	Na rsd.cz je uvedeno docela hodně staveb v Ostravě a v okolí v přípravě a před zahájením. PDF I/11 Ostrava Rudná - hranice okresu Ostrava Opava S22,5/100 a S24,5/100 výstavba 2/2009 - 3/2012 PDF I/11 hranice okresu - Mokré Lazce, S 22,5/80 výstavba 8/2008 - 3/2012 PDF I/67 Skřečoň - Bohumín (obchvat) S9,5/50 a S11,5/80 výstavba 12/2008 - 6/2010 PDF I/56 Ostrava, prodloužená Místecká I. a II. stavba MR24,5/80 výstavba 4/2008 - 11/2010 PDF I/11 Hrádek průtah S11,5/80 s rezervou na rozšíření, výstavba 8/2008 - 8/2011 PDF I/11 a I/56 propojení silnic v Opavě S11,5/80 výstavba 4/2008 - 2/2010 Jen bych si dovolil komentář - a na jižní moravě zas h*vno