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Old January 24th, 2008, 01:35 AM   #41
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Well it's either this or the thread would have been forgotten in the photo thread archives, nothing prevents people from comenting on the photos.

Not in a fake muslim way, of course, some of them hold the same viewpoint on minorities that is held in their home country but not so much because their political opinions are constructs of the french society. Generally, even if it is far from being an absolute rule, religious minorities tend to be on the left politically, and not just in France.

Most muslims come from dominated minorities and as such, their political opinions logically tend towards the left.
Exactly my point; they are leftist in the west, but wouldn't be leftist in their home country
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Old January 24th, 2008, 01:44 AM   #42
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BTW, are there fascist leftists in France like we have in Turkey? They claim to be leftist, and yet are against minority rights and quite xenophobic and such (not all of them of course).
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:19 AM   #43
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guys this is a TEL AVIV thread leave behind all your political and ideological thoughts and let's talk about the city!

Pallo - I'm glad u visited and u're welcome to visit again in 5 years or less if u'll want!
Have u got anymore pix of the city?
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Old January 24th, 2008, 07:29 AM   #44
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well Tel aviv looks a bit sad in winter (like many med cities) but it's also maybe because palo didn't photograph too many crowded areas.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 07:50 AM   #45
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Most muslims come from dominated minorities and as such, their political opinions logically tend towards the left.
There are 55 Muslim-majority countries/Islamic states on Planet Earth, encompassing the overwhelming majority of the world's muslim community, plus many other nations with huge Muslim minorities, like the +100 000 000 Muslims of India. How, then, do most Muslims come from dominated minorities? Or is that just an invented Leftist fantasy to maintain the notion of 'muslims as victims'?

BTW, love the pic's. Thanks.

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Old January 24th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #46
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They are dominated minorities in western countries, and as such they logically prefer leftist parties.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 03:59 PM   #47
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and inthe US Jews are a dominating minority that leans to the left
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Old January 25th, 2008, 04:08 AM   #48
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They are dominated minorities in western countries, and as such they logically prefer leftist parties.
I'm not sure what you mean by Western countries. Perhaps Muslims are 'dominated minorities' in Europe but there's very little evidence of that in the US and Canada. In fact, Muslims in North America, of all backgrounds, seem to be thriving, advancing, and succeeding as much as any immigrant community before them, i.e. Jews, Italians, Chinese, etc.

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Old January 25th, 2008, 08:29 AM   #49
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Elkhanan, I was only talking about France. What applies to muslim (which is a stupid category anyways, since they are a heterogenous category) as far as vote is concerned also applies to many other minorities in time and space. Blacks, catholics and mexicans in the US also tend to vote more to the left than the mainstream population.

Purple dreams, jews in the US aren't dominating, jewish fortunes and institutionnal controls are overlooked while jewish poverty is underlooked. I'd say they are just very well integrated, neither dominant (that's antisemitic or ignorant crap), nor dominated.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #50
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Purple dreams, jews in the US aren't dominating, jewish fortunes and institutionnal controls are overlooked while jewish poverty is underlooked. I'd say they are just very well integrated, neither dominant (that's antisemitic or ignorant crap), nor dominated.
I don't think so
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Old January 25th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #51
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yes the Jews control and dominant this planet for the past 4000 years,
we play with all the empires (Egypt,Babylon,Assirya,Persia,Greece,Rome,Ottoman,Britain) while they gone we survived till now days.
now its the turn of the US but we started to work for better connections with China already.

and i'm not cynical.
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Old January 25th, 2008, 03:57 PM   #52
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yes the Jews control and dominant this planet for the past 4000 years,
we play with all the empires (Egypt,Babylon,Assirya,Persia,Greece,Rome,Ottoman,Britain) while they gone we survived till now days.
now its the turn of the US but we started to work for better connections with China already.

and i'm not cynical.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #53
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that's what u implied, and that's what some other ppl r thinking as well... well it's their problem then they can think whatever they want
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Old January 26th, 2008, 08:50 AM   #54
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Please don't talk politics on this thread.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 11:53 AM   #55
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i agree but ppl always try to go there and bitch around
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Old January 26th, 2008, 11:58 AM   #56
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Pallo tell us if Tel Aviv changed since ur last time...
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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #57
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well has it Pallo?
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Old February 4th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #58
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Message to everyone: either drop the politics and give this the respect of a picture thread, or I will issue infractions immediately.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 05:05 AM   #59
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Interesting city! I love Hebrew writing.
But honestly, if I want to go to Israel, I'll go to Jerusalem first.
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