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Old January 23rd, 2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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1 Park Place | Canary Wharf | 162m | 32 fl | Site Prep

Request for Scoping Opinion as to the information to be contained within an Environmental Impact Assessment to be submitted in support of an application for demolition of existing buildings and construction of a 44 storey building to provide 122,000 sqm.



http://194.201.98.213/WAM/findCaseFi...action4=Search

Judging by the amount of floor space & number of floors & knowing the site is pretty small I would imagine this would be quite a slender tower. Quite excited -its the first non CWG tower on the CW estate. I wonder if they move away from the CWG blocky tower norm.

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Old January 23rd, 2008, 06:26 PM   #2
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Good news as is Marsh Wall - really is going to be a mini Manhattan soon enough. Cant help that it needs a bit more character though.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 06:46 PM   #3
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122,000 is BIG though. If a single tower it would have to be fatter than 1CS. This is that funny little accountancy building surrounded by the CW estate isn't it?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 06:50 PM   #4
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its here -
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/maps.php?b=5475
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 07:35 PM   #5
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Can anyone remember how much the building sold for? I'm sure the accountants who are in the building (CLB Littlejohn Frazer) sold it last year but 1 can't remember how much.

Do they also own the car park beside the roundabout (with the traffic lights in the middle) leading to Westferry etc? If not, I agree, the footprint is tiny!!
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:05 PM   #6
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They'll build over the dock.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:06 PM   #7
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Quite excited -its the first non CWG tower on the CW estate.
Oh it will never happen then.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:21 PM   #8
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Oh it will never happen then.
Why?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 08:41 PM   #9
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They'll build over the dock.
Are they allowed to do that? Is it theirs to do that? I would have thought that CWG / British Waterways would not allow that. (Unless BW got paid lots of money)
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 09:48 PM   #10
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well it sounds brilliant. even if they built over the dock it would still be quite thin/slender. good news for CW
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CWG will try and scupper it just like they tried to with Columbus.
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 10:47 PM   #12
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CWG will try and scupper it just like they tried to with Columbus.
Why would CWG try & scupper it? They have sold quite a lot of there buildings on the original estate now so it wouldn't look particularly good for then to say to those who have bought their buildings you cant develop your sites. Anyway what can they do to stop development ??
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Didn't they complain about Columbus being too tall and too much of a liability so close to their estate?
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Old January 23rd, 2008, 10:54 PM   #14
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Cant remember to be honest. But even if they did they wouldn't have much of a case what with all the taller buildings they have built & in planning at the moment.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 01:37 AM   #15
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122000 m2 on that tiny plot? Even if you stretch it all the way to the roundabout it's not big. They gotta go pretty tall. Interesting.

Btw; I'm sure I saw some renders on one of the big architect's sites of a white stone building proposed for this site. Very nice. A bit like the (few) good modern and uber posh stone buildings in Knightsbridge or the City. Sat very well there between Cabot Sq and Westferry. Does that ring any bells anyone?

Edit: found a render of the previous proposal on Goth's site;

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images..._pic1.jpg&no=1

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Old January 24th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #16
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Looking at the site and its area, this would have to be as tall at R.S would it not?
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Old January 24th, 2008, 06:56 AM   #17
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wasnt there a previous 12 floor proposal for this site? anyone remember what it was?
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Old January 24th, 2008, 12:01 PM   #18
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Yes I think it was Squire & Partners or A&M- Got planning last year I think. Was around the 10 storey mark.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #19
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It would certainly be an ideal site for a tall and slender tower. I seem to remember that CWG were pretty hostile to Columbus - they see this as there patch. I suppose it depends on whether the tower will be used in it's entirety by the developer/owner or floors/units rented out to multiple companies - thus being in direct competition to CWG. It would certainly fill the gap between RS and CW - can't wait to see some designs and renders!
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Old January 24th, 2008, 04:32 PM   #20
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Look here -

http://194.201.98.213/WAM//findCaseF...s=Park%20Place

There's a planning app in development for a 10 storey building - funnily enough, there's also 6 apps for 'details' which looks like they were going to go ahead. But they;ve since withdrawn.

at the end there's the new scoping app for the big one - 44 floors. submitted December - exciting!

http://194.201.98.213/WAM/showCaseFi...ber=PA/07/3271
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