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Old August 2nd, 2008, 11:51 AM   #181
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^ Not sure but most flights I've seen into and out of Peshawar either happen early in the morning and in the eveving. During fog or bad weather I'd assume they are diverted to Islamabad.
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^ Not sure but most flights I've seen into and out of Peshawar either happen early in the morning and in the eveving. During fog or bad weather I'd assume they are diverted to Islamabad.

Well, there are night time flights too, into and out of Peshawar as most PIA and Shaheen Airlines flights to Middle East are after 8.00 pm. The Runway 17 End is clearly visible from Jamrud Road and driving at night time, one never finds any approach lights near Runway End but yet some jets do land at night from this end.

Last year I was flying into Peshawar Airport via Qatar Airways flight very early in the morning before dawn, and through the camera attached beneath the aircarft nose, which shows you the landscape outside. I was horrified to see that there were just 4 dimly lit bulbs at Runway 35 (no rabbit lights) along with the PAPI lights at one side of Runway. God knows better how do the pilots take the risk of landing at airport which doesnt even possess the basic approach lights.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 05:47 AM   #183
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I've the same question as you. This is all that I could find:

CAA Business Plan 2008-2012

Envisages an increase in air traffic from 17 million passengers /annum to 33 million passengers / annum, an increase of 94%.

LINK: http://www.caapakistan.com.pk/downlo...6_NOV_2007.pdf

And a forumer called SaimuRathka, told us that the top 3 Int'l Airports (Karachi, Lahore & Islamabad) have about 14 million of the 17 million air traffic passengers of Pakistan.
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International Airports of Pakistan
  1. Karachi
  2. Lahore
  3. Islamabad


  4. Quetta
  5. Peshawar
  6. Gwadar
  7. Faisalabad
  8. Sialkot
  9. Multan
  10. Raheem Yar Khan (Charters)

LINK: http://www.azfreight.com/azworld/aw22651.cfm
Some useful Info relating to these posts:

Biggest Airports of Pakistan {Passenger Size} (2006-07)

Note: Rounded up figures in the Brackets and only those Airports are listed which carried more than 50 thousand passengers.

1. Karachi:

Domestic: 2,881,319 (2.88 Million)

International: 3,200,129 (3.2 Million)

Total: 6,081,448 (6.08 Million)


2. Lahore

Domestic: 1,401,268 (1.4 Million)

International: 1,690,322 (1.69 Million)

Total: 3,091,590 (3.09 Million)


3. Islamabad:

Domestic: 1,435,824 (1.44 Million)

International: 1,600,142 (1.60 Million)

Total: 3,035,966 (3.04 Million)


4. Peshawar:

Domestic: 231,712

International: 659,230

Total: 890,942 (0.9 Million)


5. Quetta:

Domestic: 255,490

International: 29,339

Total: 284,829 (0.28 Million)


6. Multan:

Domestic: 227,114

International: 13,459

Total: 240,573 (0.24 Million)


7. Faisalabad:

Domestic: 171,806

International: 17,533

Total: 189,339 (0.19 Million)


8. Sukkur

Domestic: 80,302

International: ----

Total: 80,302


9. Rahim Yar Khan

Domestic: 50,673

International: ----

Total: 50,673

-------------------------------------------------

BONUS: New Port City of Gwadar

14TH in Overall Rankings

Domestic: 28,051

International: 1,328

Total: 29,379

LINK to all of it: http://www.caapakistan.com.pk/downlo...%202006-07.pdf

P.S: There is no data for Sialkot Int'l Airport as it only became operational in November 2007. After the release of this data.

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First and biggest ever international airport constructed in the private sector in Pakistan, at a cost of over Rs 2.6 billion became operational on November 30, 2007. President Pervez Musharraf formally inaugurated the Rs 2.6 billion Sialkot International Airport December 11, 2007; the country’s first built by the private sector.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sialkot...tional_Airport

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Old August 4th, 2008, 05:50 AM   #184
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God knows better how do the pilots take the risk of landing at airport which doesnt even possess the basic approach lights.
Guess the pilots must be really skilled then!
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Old August 4th, 2008, 07:26 AM   #185
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Aren't most pilots of airlines from Gulf states Pakistani? If not most at least a sizable chunk of them...
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I admitt that the pilots flying into Peshawar with these wide bodied jets must be extraordinarliy skilled like our Airforce pilots, who can land their aging Chinese A-5 into the Peshawar Airbase, but does that imply that installing approach lights on runways is such a costly business that CAA doesnt dare it install on a busy airport like Peshawar Airport
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Old August 7th, 2008, 08:14 AM   #187
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Note: The data in post # 183 refers to the time period between 1st July 2006 to 30th June 2007.
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Old August 10th, 2008, 05:42 AM   #188
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PIA ATR Flight to Sawan and Kadanwari Air Fields (remote airfields in Sindh)

@ Karachi








Approching Khadanwari Air Field


The Malir River below and the M9 Motorway
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Old August 10th, 2008, 05:52 AM   #191
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Nice pictures.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 07:14 PM   #193
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PIA at Glasgow International
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Old September 16th, 2008, 06:04 AM   #194
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Old October 11th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #195
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Thanks for the pics, Glasgow man!

Following pics taken by fellow forumer, RMS Azam:

Allama Iqbal International Airport with Lahore Cantonment in the foreground





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Old October 12th, 2008, 01:44 AM   #196
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I love the pics.Keep it up guys.
Most of em are really nice.
PIA planes are nice as well.There service is good
I just went to Pakistan this summer on a direct flight from Toronto to Lahore.

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Benazir Bhutto (New Islamabad) International Airport, Islamabad, Pakistan

Benazir Bhutto (New Islamabad) International Airport, Islamabad, Pakistan

Key Data:
Order Year 2005
Project Type New greenfield airport
Location Islamabad, Pakistan
Estimated Investment $400m, PKR37bn
Completion 2011–2012

Key Players:
Sponsor
PCAA, Prime Minister's office

Designers and Contractors
ADPI (Aéroports de Paris ingénierie)
Acorp
Mushtaq and Bilal Mahboob Associates
CPG Corporation
National Engineering Services Pakistan (pvt) Ltd
Louis Berger Group
ECIL (Engineering Consultants International Ltd)
Lagan Construction
Husnain Co

Financing
PCAA, build operate transfer (BOT) basis

Traffic:
Passengers Nine million a year

Source: http://www.airport-technology.com/pr...enazir-bhutto/









Source: http://www.airport-technology.com/pr...enazir-bhutto/
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Old October 29th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #198
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No plans to revive flights to Pakistan: Air India


NEW DELHI: With passenger load factors on the decline, Air India has no immediate plans to revive flights to Pakistan after having closed down its se
rvices to Lahore almost eight months ago.

"This is not the right time to launch any new flights," a senior Air India official said when asked if there were any plans to relaunch its operations to Pakistani cities.

Air links between India and Pakistan were restored in January 2004, two years after tension grew between the two neighbours. The flights were withdrawn by both countries in the first week of December 2002 after the terror attack on Parliament House.

Both the countries had then decided not to allow the use of their airspace for civil aviation, leading to Indian and Pakistani flights taking long detours for their flights to the West and the East respectively.

Days ahead of Islamabad SAARC Summit, the erstwhile Indian Airlines started its New Delhi-Lahore service on January 4, 2004.

Under the existing bilateral agreement, 12 flights can be operated by designated carriers of both countries every week.

The Air India flights to Lahore were stopped in March due to commercial reasons, primarily on account of very low load factors. Pakistan International Airlines is still operating flights from Karachi.
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Appointment of new DG CAA: but where is the national aviation policy


By By Moeed ur Rehman

Much has been written and advertised about the most expensive restructuring of the CAA, commercialisation and privatisation of some of the airports, drastic measures on safety and security issue, and introducing the IMS in the Authority but there is no clue of the announcement of the new aviation policy which should have been a core issue and priority of the Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority.

This scribe remembers that ex-DG CAA Farook Rehmatullaha, who is preparing to take charge as OGDC chairman, has declared in his last few months of service in the CAA that the aviation policy will be introduced shortly but till date nothing has been heard about the most awaited announcement of the implementation of the new aviation policy. The new aviation policy which was prepared by CAA is expected to open new corridors in aviation sectors and may promote not only tourism but also may bring great attractions for private importers, manufacturers, and airlines operators besides promoting national sports and aviation industry of the country. Special tax exemptions/holidays and other attractions are the main features of the forthcoming aviation policy.

A source in aviation has disclosed that the only opposition which the CAA is facing is the PIAC which never wanted implementation of this policy. “They fear that the PIAC’s interests have not been watched or safeguarded although while finalising this policy each and every operator including small aviators have been consulted,” well-placed source in air transport department of the CAA disclosed.

Air blue mastermind and chief operation officer MNA Shahid Khakan Abbasi while informally talking a few days ago, was of the view that the policy should have come by all means as every one is waiting for it. “I fail to understand when every thing, as they say, is ok, then why the delay is,” he added.

The entire aviation sector of the country including hot balloon sports organisers are now anxiously waiting for the announcement but when this is the question which CAA authorities have to clarify in the best interest of the aviation sector.

In the meantime, another great development has been witnessed as the federal government has finally appointed a new director-general of the Civil Aviation Authority Pakistan and that too from the CAA. The ministry of defence issued a notification to this effect the other day.

The new DG CAA Air Commodore Junaid Amin (retired), the sitting chief of airport services and chief of human resources of the CAA Pakistan, is a senior retired officer of the Pakistan Air Force, who by bad luck could not get next grade in the PAF despite a clean and unblemished service record.

He was sent to the CAA on deputation about few years ago where he, after his retirement from the PAF and after completion of deputation period, was given two years’ contract which was to expire this year.

The appointment of the new DG CAA has put to rest reports that President Asif Ali Zardar, who has the unique habit of taking surprising and unexpected decisions, will appoint someone from the list referred by the ministry of defence or from the long list of those names referred by some of PPP stalwarts who wanted to see their own man in such a lucrative high-profile post. “The nomination and approval of the name of Mr Junaid as DG CAA might not have surprised ex-DG CAA Farook Rehmatullah who during his last meeting with the country’s top brass had recommended his name for the present post.” Yes, I have mentioned his name for the slot because he is the best from the available lot,” Farook confessed a few days ago. “They asked me about my successor and I gave them three names from the CAA. Junaid Amin’s name was on top because he is the best from the available lot,” Farook said.

However as per aviation experts in the country, despite all, the present assignment which is the highest in the CAA is not a bed of roses for Mr Junaid Amin, especially in the presence of continuous interference by the ministry defence in all CAA matters. Let us see how he tackles his own ministry and the political pressure from politicians,” political analysts say. “Junaid is a clean man but he may not bear political pressures alone. For this, he needs strong teams both inside and outside the CAA,” they opine.

Interestingly, all most all the ex-DG CAA, who tried to get rid of continuous interference from the ministry of defence, lost their jobs as they could not develop good working relations with their own parent ministry and were forced to leave the CAA much before the expiry of their contract. Only three survived who avoided collision with the ministry. Mr Farook Rahmattullah was the only DG CAA who throughout his tenure as the DG CAA tried his level best to pull out the CAA from the continuous interference from the ministry of defence so much so he developed an open tug of war with the then secretary defence over a lot of burning issues.

The then secretary defence had reportedly written a letter to the chief executive against Farook Rehmatullah. But luckily due to close contacts with former president of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf, former prime minister Shaukat Aziz, and his own personality, not only did he manage to survive himself but showed exit to the then secretary of defence whose contract despite hectic pressure was not renewed by the president.

Aviation experts are of the view that the new DG CAA is a wise, clean man and experienced officer and he may not take the risk of head-on collision with his own ministry over petty issues. “He is likely to avoid tug of war with the ministry and he should use friendly relations and fetch a lot of benefits for the CAA,” they say. He may also face a lot of challenges inside the CAA during his two years’ contract as the DG CAA, they further fear.

The immediate tasks which the new DG CAA may face are to review or to continue the ongoing restructuring process of the CAA which were started by his predecessor (although it never worked and started creating administrative problems). Completion of mega projects like ontime construction of the new airport at Islamabad, and completion of all the development projects, especially of Gilgit, Peshawar, and Skardu which after the departure of Farook Rehmatullah

turned into status-quo position. Besides this, the forthcoming ICAO security/audit meeting, other security threats at all the airports, PIACís aircraft and recovery of outstanding dues issues may be a hard test for the new DG CAA. Least but not last, the delay in the announcement of a new aviation policy may be another hard and immediate task.

Aviation experts observe that the only immediate task and test for the new DG CAA is that how he tackles this issue and when he gets the approval of the cabinet. His success and failure depends on this immediate test only as we consider it the top priority and real exam of Mr Junaid, an aviation observer is of the view.

Close friends who worked with Mr Junaid assured that with vast experience of working in all kinds of weather he shall overcome the difficulties. “Junaid has seen good and bad weather during his service and is known to be the master of handling such tasks,” one of the DG CAA’s close friends, who did not want to be identified, told this scribe.

Taking about the fear which is in the minds of some of the aviators that his DDG may influence his decisions or may create problems for him in running day-to-day affairs of the CAA as he is a serving Air Vice Marshal, he said the DDG CAA has served under him in the air force and has already vowed to work under him in the best interest of the organisation.

Talking to this scribe, a senior officer of the CAA said that the confidence of CAA officers was also shaken during the last tenure of the ex-DG CAA as deserving officers were sidetracked and influential officers were promoted breaking all the service rules. We expect that due rights would be given to the right and deserving officers during the tenure of this DG CAA who knows the ins and outs of this organization, he added.

Aviation experts in the country are of the opinion that the present DG CAA, who has the ability to tackle all kinds of situation at this preliminary stage, should not only take all the staff and officers of the CAA in confidence but he should take the ministry also on board before taking any decision, and if he does so, he would be the most success. “Once he gets command and control of the affairs he should try to keep the CAA off the clutches of the ministry of defence and make the CAA a liberal and independent authority which is the need of the hour,” they say.

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