Self-Defense Forces 自衛隊

[dumbfword]

Originally Posted by castermaild55

I agree with him





It is also taboo to discuss the nuclear weapon in Japan.
Let's dicuss　it

I think you would see protest on par or worse than the ones that took place when Japan signed the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security with the USA if the government planned to produce nuclear weapons.

[castermaild55]

Originally Posted by dumbfword

I think you would see protest on par or worse than the ones that took place when Japan signed the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security with the USA if the government planned to produce nuclear weapons.

time is changed since tohoku earthquake...
I see what the worst thing is....
Of course, Article 9 of the constitution doesn't defend Japan.
at first, Japan should make a system that defense the mother country herself　as considering the worst thing
anyway The United States has fallen.
as for power balance of world , The United States is not dominant in the future.
it does not need the US Military forces in Okinawa if there is a nuclear weapon.
BTW
What do you fear?

[SamuraiBlue]

Originally Posted by dumbfword

I think you would see protest on par or worse than the ones that took place when Japan signed the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security with the USA if the government planned to produce nuclear weapons.

Obviously it's a sticky issue.
First of all, we need to discuss why we need it for.
Nuclear armament is basically assertion for MAD(Mutual Assured Destruction) but with a more advanced BMD(Ballistic Missile Defense) ensuring protection from WMD threats, do Japan really need Nuclear armament for deterrence?

I believe the Three Non-Nuclear Principles or the Sato doctrine of forfeiting anything nuclear was a bit rash but realistically speaking I do not see any benefit of nuclear armament if we are able to defend ourselves from nuclear threats. In exchange preserve the right to counterattack on all military installations, equipment and personnel of aggressors regardless of location if and when attacked.

Japan may need to revise article 9 somewhat so Japan is able to respond to military conflicts against our citizens & territory beyond our soil but still uphold the forfeiture of aggressive military advance. In other words the JSDF should have the right to develop rules of engagement where they are given the right to shoot when duty calls to defend our own people in a hostile environment without the need of authorization by the government. In exchange JSDF needs to establish a court martial and civilian control is assured.

[ukiyo]

Almost nobody takes Ishihara seriously...he even said the earthquake was "divine punishment" . I think Japan can be more self reliant but nuclear weapons will never pass here. You might even see riots, something unheard of since the 60s happen before Japan develops nuclear missles. My family lived through the nuclear bombings so I myself am extremely anti-nuclear

[castermaild55]

so I myself am extremely anti-nuclear

kitty, indeed, no Japanese wants it...
however, sad to say, it does not reach them.
they feels it in the weakness.
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/world/news/...9170000-n1.htm

Almost nobody takes Ishihara seriously...he even said the earthquake was "divine punishment"

I took his speach as same as this。it is mass medias and Ishihara hater's propaganda..
http://finalvent.cocolog-nifty.com/f...post-e1d4.html

Takeshi ....

[Manila-X]

[JDFD]

Hi, im new in the asian forum.

I have to say that armed forces are very respectable, I have understood that is the most modern in the world alongside the United States, Russia and China. I ask myself, that The Japanese people are pleased with its military self-defense? I mean to the international eyes is very well seen and respected, but the Japanese people who think of their armed forces?

Grettings and thanks!

[SamuraiBlue]

Japan’s 5th GenFighter Demonstrator to Get FY12 Funding

As part of the Advanced Technology Demonstrator (ATD-X or “Shinshin”) project that will help develop fighter planes twenty years from now, the Ministry of Defense (MoD) plans to commission Mitsubishi Heavy Industries to development the airframe to as soon as within this financial year. In addition, funds for spare parts and maintenance materials totally approximately JPY 9 billion (roughly USD 117 million) look to be included in the draft requests for the FY 2012 budget which come out at the end of September. This effort will evaluate the operational effectiveness of each technological component, and will help make the successor to the F2 fighter plane a domestic effort.

The ATD-X will not be deployed to units, but is a plane that will verify both the stealth ability to not be picked up on enemy radar, and the high kinetic performance which allows quick turns when traveling at low speed. No mission avionics or weapon systems such as missiles will be installed. Forecasts see a maiden flight in FY 2014, and flight tests in FY 2015-2016.

From 2009 the MoD had charged Mitsubishi Heavy Industries with developing the manufacturing design, and as this has been completed the move is now to construction of the airframe.

Link to article in Japanese.

[SamuraiBlue]

To reinforce defense in the Southern East Island archipelago, GSDF to be stationed in Yonaguni

On the 20th the Ministry of Defense had announced that they have selected Yonaguni island as their base of operation for the newly to be established GSDF “Shores Surveillance Unit” to reinforce defense in the Southern East archipelago region.
The budget to obtain property had been requested for the 2012 fisical budget. The unit will be configure with about 100 personnel with facilities scheduled to be constructed by fY 2015.

Original article in Japanese here.

[ukiyo]

Japan To Pick From F-35, F/A-18, Eurofighter

TOKYO (Nikkei)--The Defense Ministry stopped accepting submissions from aircraft makers Monday morning, leaving a choice between three aircraft as Japan's next mainstay fighter plane.

The three fighter planes are Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter, Boeing Co.'s F/A-18 Super Hornet, and the Eurofighter Typhoon, which was jointly developed by four European nations.

The ministry will select, by the end of the year, a model to succeed the Air Self-Defense Force's F-4 fighter plane.

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110926D26SS720.htm

[Manila-X]

Originally Posted by NihonKitty

Japan To Pick From F-35, F/A-18, Eurofighter

Go with the F-35. And since it is a Joint Strike Fighter, how about Japan contribute to its development.

[RyukyuRhymer]

Originally Posted by Manila-X

Go with the F-35. And since it is a Joint Strike Fighter, how about Japan contribute to its development.

it would be hard for Japan to contribute since most of it is already developed. Also Japan needs the airplanes very soon. If it ordered the F-35 now, it'd have to wait in line behind the other existing orders and it would take a while.

[Chris Takagi]

couldn't they just make them here under license instead of wating in line?

[RyukyuRhymer]

^ that is the problem to begin with.. its unlikely the US will alllow Boeing to give Japan its own production line. Maybe producing parts of it, but to liscense build it highly unlikely. They don't even trust the British with the whole thing even though the Britain is the top and earliest foreign partner.

If its the F-18 it would be likely but not F-35.

[Huhu]

F-35 is probably the best available choice right now. But it they're confident about the ATD-X program, maybe a stopgap measure like the F/A-18 would be cheaper until it's ready.

[SamuraiBlue]

Originally Posted by RyukyuRhymer

^ that is the problem to begin with.. its unlikely the US will alllow Boeing to give Japan its own production line. Maybe producing parts of it, but to liscense build it highly unlikely. They don't even trust the British with the whole thing even though the Britain is the top and earliest foreign partner.

Lockheed Martin is the main contractor for F-35 lightningⅡ not Boeing but LM doesn't really have much control since there are so many countries involved providing funds in development of the plane.United Kingdom, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey, Australia, Norway and Denmark have agreed to contribute US$4.375 billion toward the development costs of the program meaning they all have certain degree in say and it's very unlikely they will all agree on licensing it to Japan.

Originally Posted by Huhu

F-35 is probably the best available choice right now. But it they're confident about the ATD-X program, maybe a stopgap measure like the F/A-18 would be cheaper until it's ready.

The ATD-X program(Shinshin) is only going to be a technical demonstrator as the acronym suggests focused on new technology to be incorporated for the replacements of F-15J and F-2 that are scheduled to be decommissioned around 2020.
The F-X on the other hand is aimed to replace the aging F-4J that are scheduled to be decommissioned around 2015 at latest making F-35A an unlikely candidate due to conflict in delivery schedule.

[Huhu]

Originally Posted by SamuraiBlue

The ATD-X program(Shinshin) is only going to be a technical demonstrator as the acronym suggests focused on new technology to be incorporated for the replacements of F-15J and F-2 that are scheduled to be decommissioned around 2020.
The F-X on the other hand is aimed to replace the aging F-4J that are scheduled to be decommissioned around 2015 at latest making F-35A an unlikely candidate due to conflict in delivery schedule.

Sorry, guess I got them mixed up.

[ukiyo]

Japan Jet Scrambles Related to China Planes Tripled

While growing tensions on the high seas have been the main focus in recent territorial tensions between China and Japan, a report released by the Defense Ministry shows prickliness is escalating in the skies as well.

Japan’s Air Self-Defense Force has scrambled 83 times in the first half of the year to check out military aircraft from China buzzing Japan’s air space, according to the Defense Ministry’s Joint Staff Council on Thursday, more than triple the amount compared to the same six-month period in 2010.

More: http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2...lanes-tripled/

DPJ panel's call to ease arms export ban met with caution

The Democratic Party of Japan-led government reacted cautiously Friday to a proposal by the party's defense panel to resume talks on relaxing the nation's weapons export ban, a move that could potentially boost Japan's military capacities and strengthen ties with the United States.

The issue is drawing attention ahead of Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda's expected meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation conference in November

Washington is believed to favor an easing of the ban, which would allow Japan to engage in joint weapons development projects with the U.S. and other nations. Some analysts in the Japanese media have been speculating that Noda could convey to Obama his intention to ease the ban during their meeting.

Some DPJ lawmakers, however, oppose relaxing the arms export ban, which they consider an essential element of Japan's war-renouncing defense policy, and it remains unclear how and even whether the government can move toward easing the long-standing arms embargo.

More: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0111015a5.html

Japan to boost Australian ties on arms and security

JAPAN is seeking a closer security relationship with Australia and the US, flagging new areas of co-operation in arms exports and overseas deployments while warning of China's growing military strength.

Japan's ambassador to Australia, Shigekazu Sato, will today outline a vision for a stronger trilateral security relationship and a "hereto unseen" level of co-operation with Australia.

Mr Sato declares that new opportunities for co-operation with Australia may arise as a result of two reviews of Japan's national defence program guidelines announced last December. These relate to Japan's stringent arms export policy and its move towards a more robust defence force capable of sustaining a higher operational tempo in peacekeeping and disaster relief missions.

"We need to further co-operate to create a global and regional order that benefits all, in close co-ordination with the United States," he says.

"Moreover, the results of the two reviews on Japan's overseas activities and arms export policy may open up new areas of co-operation between Japan and Australia."

More: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226152275994

Japan, ASEAN to boost sea security

JAKARTA--Japan and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations will pledge to promote maritime security cooperation at Japan-ASEAN summit talks in November, a move made with an eye on China's accelerating maritime activities in the region, sources said Friday.

The pledge will be part of the Japan-ASEAN Joint Declaration to be issued at the summit meeting to be held in Indonesia in mid-November. It will be their first joint declaration since the Tokyo Declaration in December 2003, which called for promoting economic cooperation but did not mention maritime security.

The declaration also will stipulate that Japan will strengthen antidisaster cooperation with ASEAN nations--including the provision of tsunami prediction devices--based on its experiences from the Great East Japan Earthquake, the sources said.

The declaration's call for strengthening maritime security ties between Japan and ASEAN comes at a time of intensifying friction between China and neighboring countries over sovereignty in the South China Sea, as well as the situation in the East China Sea, where Japan's Senkaku Islands are located.

Through the joint declaration, the Japanese government intends to call for free and safe navigation and the observation of international laws in the East China and South China seas. The government hopes working in unison with ASEAN member countries, which are increasingly wary of China's growing presence in the area, will keep China in check and force it to act with self-restraint.

More: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T111014005101.htm

[ukiyo]

What do you guys think of all of this. I think Japan needs to be able to defend itself but I want Japan to be like Sweden or Switzerland..just neutral.

[SamuraiBlue]

Originally Posted by NihonKitty

What do you guys think of all of this. I think Japan needs to be able to defend itself but I want Japan to be like Sweden or Switzerland..just neutral.

NihonKitty

I really do not know what kind of fantasy you are dreaming but neither Sweden or Switzerland are completely free of militarization, far from it since in Switzerland I believe it is an obligation for all citizens above a certain age to be able to shoot a gun and train once a year and possess a gun within their home in case of an invasion. As Sun Tzu states "To speak peace be prepared for war." which most Japanese are not prepared for.
To maintain neutrality in a hot zone like the far east where you have PRC on one side and the US on the other is a pipe dream as history proves in cases like the Korean peninsula in the dawn of 20th century. In order to to do so you'll need to be prepared to make enemy of both sides which again the Japanese government has no will in doing so.

Hot war may not be likely but intimidation through military presence would become ever more frequent with more openness in displaying power which will lead to border skirmishes and occupation of outer islands like Senkaku and/or Yonaguni island.

Japan also need to speak out to her ally the US as well to maintain an equal partnership.