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Old June 9th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #241
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Yes, this is indeed one of the many measures to improve inter-country rail connections between Central and Southeast European countries. The connection will indeed be much slower than the one via Belgrade cancelled a few years ago. However Serbian Railways has proven rather unreliable in providing locomotives and keeping to schedules, so the train is now planned to run via Vidin. Let us hope that by then BDZ will manage to have its new T‹SAV sleepers licensed for international runs and that some fine day, Bulgaria and Romania are accepted as Schengen members so middle of the night passport checks will also become a thing of the past on this line, but unfortunately there is no sign of this yet.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 12:27 PM   #242
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and that some fine day, Bulgaria and Romania are accepted as Schengen members so middle of the night passport checks will also become a thing of the past on this line
The lack of Shengen membership should not be used as an excuse to justify
this 19th century practice. Before Shengen ever existed, there were passport
checks between west european countries too, but for sleepers passengers,
it went like this : passengers would give their papers (train ticket + passport)
to the sleeping car attendant, and then border controls would happen in the
night, between the attendant and the border guards, without involving the
passengers at all. They got their papers back from the attendant the next
morning, passports duly stamped as expected. This worked flawlessly for
decades. I don't see why, outside paranoia inherithed from soviet times, this
couldn't be done similarly at the borders of Bulgaria.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #243
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The lack of Shengen membership should not be used as an excuse to justify this 19th century practice. Before Shengen ever existed, there were passport checks between west european countries too, but for sleepers passengers, it went like this : passengers would give their papers (train ticket + passport) to the sleeping car attendant, and then border controls would happen in the night, between the attendant and the border guards, without involving the passengers at all. They got their papers back from the attendant the next morning, passports duly stamped as expected. This worked flawlessly for decades. I don't see why, outside paranoia inherithed from soviet times, this couldn't be done similarly at the borders of Bulgaria.
For a long time one could travel all over Europe without a passport. Thanks to the railways even...
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Old July 20th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #244
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According the hilarious Google translation of the Dutch language story you can link to below, from Trends.be, DB is going to help with the management of BDZ, with one of the goals being to reduce the debt of the organisation.

DB Zou Bulgaarse Spoorwegen Kunnen Overnemen
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Old July 20th, 2014, 03:55 PM   #245
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An article on the matter in real english then: http://www.novinite.com/articles/162...State+Railways
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Old July 25th, 2014, 01:54 AM   #246
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Dear fellow forumers, does anybody know from which cars is consisted RBV3620 and return RBV3625? As those are prime trains I assume that those will be the best ones but looking at BDZ stock list I am a bit worried. Can someone specify which from those are used:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix_frameset.html
(chose bg, than car, than express as direct hot linking is impossible).

And for other users recently to new cab views were published by user bdz43r. Interestingly both were filmed with camera outside cab thus soundtrack is a bit different than in other such movies. First one is from Kulata to Blagoevgrad with Kresna gorge:


Second is a bit less glamorous but for rail lovers still interesting as it travels from Stara Zagora to Dabovo.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 06:52 PM   #247
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One thing in relation to the announcement that DB is working with BDZ to help it restructure and reduce debt that I have been pondering is this.

On the freight side, DB competes with BDZ Cargo in the form of DB Schenker Bulgaria. Is that not then a conflict of interest?
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Old July 25th, 2014, 07:46 PM   #248
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I'd love for DB to take over completely and make BDZ's product more efficient and with higher quality. Otherwise, we're stuck in the middle ages.
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Old July 25th, 2014, 11:51 PM   #249
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Without political support for the railway and huge investments from the state (for new/upgraded railway infrastructure and for passenger train operating subsidies/PSO) also DB wont be able to achieve real improvements and ofer a high-quality railway system.

Railway infrastructure investments requires public money. The same applies for an attractive passenger service: Nearly all European local/suburbahn train services as well as many intercity-services (in countries with low population density) are PSO-financed.

Of course a competent management and motivated railway staff are needed, maybe DB is better than BDZ regarding that - but without pro-railway orientated politics substantial improvement will be difficult/impossible to achieve...
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Old July 26th, 2014, 11:13 AM   #250
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One thing in relation to the announcement that DB is working with BDZ to help it restructure and reduce debt that I have been pondering is this.

On the freight side, DB competes with BDZ Cargo in the form of DB Schenker Bulgaria. Is that not then a conflict of interest?
It is. But BDZ owes a lot of money to Germany, so it looks to me as a kind of a takeover.
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Old July 26th, 2014, 01:12 PM   #251
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Yeah, it sounds it too me too.

I know DB Schenker receives a bit a criticism, what with it being 100 per cent owned by the German state.

But it is a very well run logistics business and it's the only genuinely pan-European rail cargo business that includes single wagon traffic as part of the service portfolio.

It wouldn't surprise me if DB Schenker wishes to expand in Bulgaria by purchasing BDZ Cargo, given the strategic importance of Bulgaria in relation to Turkey and also Greece and the Balkans.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 08:24 AM   #252
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Update Plovdiv-Svilengrad railway (160km/h for conventional trains and 200 km/h for tilting trains)

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More here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...367455&page=25

Information about the project. http://www.plovdivsvilengradrailway.com/en/



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Old August 29th, 2014, 11:57 PM   #253
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List of railway projects that will be financed under the OP "Transport" in 2014-20:
1. Sofia-Septemvri (partially);
2. Plovdiv-Burgas phase II;
3. Ruse-Varna;
4. Karnobat-Sindel (partially).
No map. Sorry.

List of projects that will be financed under the OP "CEF" in 2014-20:
1. Improvement of sailing on Danube river(Batin-Belene mainly). I wonder if our northen neighbours are ready with papers on this project.
2. Vidin - Medkovets railway
3. Sofia - Dragoman railway
4. SRB border - Kalotina - Sofia motorway
There is a major shift in transport strategy and the plans for its financing and prioritization:
OP "Transport" road projects will be financed 50:50 while railway and water projects will remain at a 15:85 ratio. The priorities now are:
1. Plovdiv-Burgas phase II;
2. Elin Pelin-Ihtiman
Alternative projects:
1. Ihtiman-Septemvri
2. Ruse-Varna

The central part of MD3 in Sofia as well, of course.

List of projects that will be financed under the OP "CEF" in 2014-20:
1. Dragoman-Sofia-Elin Pelin
2. Vidin-Medkovets
3. Improvement of sailing on Danube river(Batin-Belene mainly). I wonder if our northen neighbours are ready with papers on this project.
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Old September 3rd, 2014, 07:32 PM   #254
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Modernisation of Pazardzhik railway station:
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Old January 9th, 2015, 06:24 PM   #255
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Bulgarian government relaunches privatisation process for rail feight operator
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Old January 10th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #256
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Several passenger trains will be cancelled soon:
http://www.novinite.com/articles/165...maller+Subsidy


Bulgaria’s Railway Co Suspends 38 Trains as of Jan 12 over Smaller Subsidy


Bulgaria: Bulgaria’s Railway Co Suspends 38 Trains as of Jan 12 over Smaller Subsidy Photo by BGNES

The state-owned Bulgarian State Railways (BDZ) drops 38 trains off its schedule as of January 12 due to a reduction in its subsidy by BGN 40 M. Apart from that, BDZ will also cut staff in order to cope with the smaller amount of money.
The reduced subsidy will force the state-owned railway carrier to cut 5 million train-km, or a total of around 140 trains, according to Darik radio.

The next batch of trains, which are to be suspended as of February, is to be announced in a few days’ time.
As of the beginning of next week, 38 trains will stop running and 10 trains will operate shortened routes.
According to BDZ, the company will first suspend “the most inefficient” trains which are used by the smallest number of people, with over 90 trains more to be dropped so as to allow the Passenger Services unit of state-owned BDZ to cope with its downsized subsidy.
Apart from the suspension of trains, the company also faces staff cuts.
According to preliminary calculations, the total headcount is to be reduced by 1500 people.

Trade unions have condemned the measure, stressing that a nationwide strike is being prepared, with a petition against the measure already backed by 10 000 signatures.
At the same time, the freight unit of BDZ, BDZ Freight Services, faces a new privatization procedure.
The debts of Holding BDZ stand at BGN 565 M, according to reports of Sega daily.


On many lines train services weren't frequent in the past - now even more and more trains are cancelled and services become less and less frequent... what will remain of BDZ passenger train services in a few years?
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Old February 12th, 2015, 10:23 AM   #257
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Old April 19th, 2015, 11:47 AM   #258
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 05:13 AM   #259
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Old June 25th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #260
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The preliminary plan for the 2015/2016 schedule is out. It shows that although construction on the Plovdiv-Svilengrad Railway is all but finished, billions have been spent and rail passengers had to deal with cancellations and slow traffic for years, maximum speeds on the finished line are planned as 100 and east of Dimitrovgrad only 80 kmh; claims were they were to rise to 180. So I wonder: does BDZ still need to add signaling systems? Do BDZ locos have to be refitted with modern signaling systems? Are the locos too slow and will BDZ have to buy new ones? What is wrong or missing on the line?
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