Official Thread : KL MONORAIL

[KelvinKoh]

i just 'play-play' around and draw some of possible stations of the future monorail extension route. no need to go as far as kepong as what MTrans first proposed, which is unpractical.

what i propose is, places which not only pretty high populated, but the destination itself, is a KL's attraction.

Places like:

• Midvalley
• Jalan Maarof (Bangsar)
• Hartamas
• Istana Negara (U/C)

are now connected. also KL Performing Art Centre (Sentul Park) can also be accessed via Batu station.

also, Duta (Jalan Duta) and Damansara Perdana also 2 places where government offices are located. Plus the future development in Damansara Perdana means the location also can be an attraction.

with 12 stations, most of the route will run on road reserve. that means, few land acquisition involved. and also less bureaucratic.

the view too can show visitors the dynamic of our roads and highways crossing KL.

oh, monorail is made-in-malaysia. so, not only fast to construct, it also cheaper than those LRT extensions and Cheras-Damansara MRT project!!

[patchay]

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

i just 'play-play' around and draw some of possible stations of the future monorail extension route. no need to go as far as kepong as what MTrans first proposed, which is unpractical.

what i propose is, places which not only pretty high populated, but the destination itself, is a KL's attraction.

Places like:

• Midvalley
• Jalan Maarof (Bangsar)
• Hartamas
• Istana Negara (U/C)

are now connected. also KL Performing Art Centre (Sentul Park) can also be accessed via Batu station.

also, Duta (Jalan Duta) and Damansara Perdana also 2 places where government offices are located. Plus the future development in Damansara Perdana means the location also can be an attraction.

with 12 stations, most of the route will run on road reserve. that means, few land acquisition involved. and also less bureaucratic.

the view too can show visitors the dynamic of our roads and highways crossing KL.

oh, monorail is made-in-malaysia. so, not only fast to construct, it also cheaper than those LRT extensions and Cheras-Damansara MRT project!!

good idea.... but hey ... Damansara Perdana is in PJ near 1Utama and Kampung Penchala lah... the area near Bangsar is Pusat Bandar Damansara or Bukit Damansara....


Tun Sambanthan - Seputeh - Midvalley - Jalan Telawi (Bangsar Town Centre) - Bukit Bandaraya - Pusat Bandar Damansara/Bukit Damansara - Damansara Heights - Mont'Kiara/Desa Sri Hartamas - Istana Negara - Hentian Duta - Sentul West (KLPAC) - Jalan Ipoh - Titiwangsa

[allurban]

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

i just 'play-play' around and draw some of possible stations of the future monorail extension route. no need to go as far as kepong as what MTrans first proposed, which is unpractical.

what i propose is, places which not only pretty high populated, but the destination itself, is a KL's attraction.

Places like:

• Midvalley
• Jalan Maarof (Bangsar)
• Hartamas
• Istana Negara (U/C)

are now connected. also KL Performing Art Centre (Sentul Park) can also be accessed via Batu station.

also, Duta (Jalan Duta) and Damansara Perdana also 2 places where government offices are located. Plus the future development in Damansara Perdana means the location also can be an attraction.

with 12 stations, most of the route will run on road reserve. that means, few land acquisition involved. and also less bureaucratic.

the view too can show visitors the dynamic of our roads and highways crossing KL.

oh, monorail is made-in-malaysia. so, not only fast to construct, it also cheaper than those LRT extensions and Cheras-Damansara MRT project!!

A very good idea...I also thought of something similar except that I included the Universiti Malaya lands. But I like your diagram and you are thinking the right way...

The only problem that exists here is that the proposed MRT will also be running along the route and along Jalan Maarof...my preference would be to reroute the MRT so that it follows Jalan Parliamen route into the city, then past Dataran Merdeka to Dayabumi & Kuala Lumpur & Pasar Seni...then on to Raja Chulan and Bukit Bintang.

Let the monorail handle the connections between KL Sentral, UM, government offices and Titiwangsa.

The "Future Station" you proposed...place it between the National Science centre and Bukit Kiara Equestrian club....think of the Sunburst KL Festival & activities that are held in those areas regularly.

NU Sentral could have a monorail connection instead of the MRT and it would probably be better overall because the destination is KL, not KL Sentral. From NU Sentral/Brickfields the monorail can travel across the river and Jalan Syed Putra into Seputeh, then reach MidValley and the Universiti Malaya lands on the Plaza Pantai side....then back to Bangsar

You should make this as a formal proposal ... and email to gmd@prasarana.com.my

Cheers, m

[KelvinKoh]

Originally Posted by patchay

good idea.... but hey ... Damansara Perdana is in PJ near 1Utama and Kampung Penchala lah... the area near Bangsar is Pusat Bandar Damansara or Bukit Damansara....

Tun Sambanthan - Seputeh - Midvalley - Jalan Telawi (Bangsar Town Centre) - Bukit Bandaraya - Pusat Bandar Damansara/Bukit Damansara - Damansara Heights - Mont'Kiara/Desa Sri Hartamas - Istana Negara - Hentian Duta - Sentul West (KLPAC) - Jalan Ipoh - Titiwangsa

sorry sorry, my bad. it's (Pusat) Bandar Damansara, not Damansara Perdana. where the KPKT, Immigration etc. offices are there...

very congested at daytime...

Originally Posted by allurban

A very good idea...I also thought of something similar except that I included the Universiti Malaya lands. But I like your diagram and you are thinking the right way...

i've been thinking the same too. but around UM, there's a pretty steep hill to cross to bangsar and i don't think monorail can climb it...

The only problem that exists here is that the proposed MRT will also be running along the route and along Jalan Maarof...my preference would be to reroute the MRT so that it follows Jalan Parliamen route into the city, then past Dataran Merdeka to Dayabumi & Kuala Lumpur & Pasar Seni...then on to Raja Chulan and Bukit Bintang.

Let the monorail handle the connections between KL Sentral, UM, government offices and Titiwangsa.

yup, we have to wait the proposed MRT to be finalized first too. but if monorail to take the Jalan Parlimen, i don't think it would be profitable as there are no residential/commercial area around Jalan Parlimen to Dataran Merdeka. better for monorail to have many stops which connect commercial hubs, so that point to point, it can make money.

The "Future Station" you proposed...place it between the National Science centre and Bukit Kiara Equestrian club....think of the Sunburst KL Festival & activities that are held in those areas regularly.

yup but still there are no significant residential/commercial area. it will be like LRT's Sri Rampai...

NU Sentral could have a monorail connection instead of the MRT and it would probably be better overall because the destination is KL, not KL Sentral. From NU Sentral/Brickfields the monorail can travel across the river and Jalan Syed Putra into Seputeh, then reach MidValley and the Universiti Malaya lands on the Plaza Pantai side....then back to Bangsar

You should make this as a formal proposal ... and email to gmd@prasarana.com.my

Cheers, m

there's the problem will come...from Plaza Pantai to Bangsar, you have to climb a steep hilly area...which i'm not sure monorail can make it or not...

[patchay]

we can make it an SSC Proposal for Monorail...

I think venturing deep into UM and then UH (Hospital damm crowded) will be a good idea... but pardon me as I dont know much about the difficulty getting the monorail there.

The current Universiti stop (KJ Line) is not convenient.

original idea by kelvinkoh

[allurban]

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

i've been thinking the same too. but around UM, there's a pretty steep hill to cross to bangsar and i don't think monorail can climb it...

there's the problem will come...from Plaza Pantai to Bangsar, you have to climb a steep hilly area...which i'm not sure monorail can make it or not...

Monorail and Kelena Jaya LRT are supposed to be good for climbing steep grades. Monorail claims are in the range of 6% and the Kelana Jaya line is in the range of 4-5%

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

yup, we have to wait the proposed MRT to be finalized first too. but if monorail to take the Jalan Parlimen, i don't think it would be profitable as there are no residential/commercial area around Jalan Parlimen to Dataran Merdeka. better for monorail to have many stops which connect commercial hubs, so that point to point, it can make money....

If monorail were to take the Lake Gardens/Mahameru/Parliamen scenic route it would be great for tourism but nothing else...not likely to make that much money except for tourist travels.

The MidValley/UM/Pantai/Bangsar stretch is a good mixed commercial & residential & institutional zone so there is a lot of variety there.

The Jalan Duta area is mostly institutional but there are government offices and functions, the Jalan Duta Bus terminal etc.

I think that it makes more sense to use Parliamen for a direct MRT route - keeps the cost of construction & tunneling down.

Lets the monorail carry the tourists and government workers around and extends it to complete the circle line function that it ought to have.

Another option - 2 monorail routes

NU Sentral > Bangsar > Pantai > UM > PBD > Hartamas > Damansara Heights > Duta > Batu > Titiwangsa

Tun Sambanthan > Brickfields > Taman Seputeh > MidValley > Old Klang Road

At this point, there could be 2 further options - one way going to Bukit Jalil and the other way going to IOI mall & Sunway.

Cheers, m

[KelvinKoh]

Originally Posted by patchay

we can make it an SSC Proposal for Monorail...

I think venturing deep into UM and then UH (Hospital damm crowded) will be a good idea... but pardon me as I dont know much about the difficulty getting the monorail there.

The current Universiti stop (KJ Line) is not convenient.

original idea by kelvinkoh

i've been studying in UM for 2 years and i take LRT very regular to go downtown. and i think the location of LRT station is ok. bcoz rapidKL bus (then Putraline) already served inside UM. i mean, buses take students inside UM with pretty good frequency.

plus, the station located in the main road going to Bukit Pantai which has good density (the Vista Angkasa Apartment and low-cost flats). also the current u/c Bangsar south project once completed could make the Universiti Station more useful.

while monorail going to Universiti Hospital is good too....but the route has to completely divert via Jalan Universiti. and since monorail running on that road, better to serve up to UIA's Matriculation Center as well...

[KelvinKoh]

Originally Posted by allurban

The MidValley/UM/Pantai/Bangsar stretch is a good mixed commercial & residential & institutional zone so there is a lot of variety there.

The Jalan Duta area is mostly institutional but there are government offices and functions, the Jalan Duta Bus terminal etc.

I think that it makes more sense to use Parliamen for a direct MRT route - keeps the cost of construction & tunneling down.

Lets the monorail carry the tourists and government workers around and extends it to complete the circle line function that it ought to have.

yup, i think MRT should serve Jalan Parlimen, but not to have station there. bcoz Parliament is not a public access building and not even a tourist spot, and i dont think MP would ever take MRT to Parliament.

Another option - 2 monorail routes

NU Sentral > Bangsar > Pantai > UM > PBD > Hartamas > Damansara Heights > Duta > Batu > Titiwangsa

Tun Sambanthan > Brickfields > Taman Seputeh > MidValley > Old Klang Road

At this point, there could be 2 further options - one way going to Bukit Jalil and the other way going to IOI mall & Sunway.

Cheers, m

yeah, i've been thinking about having 2 different routes, but then i dont think monorail could extend from KL Sentral station. as once the NU Sentral completed, the range/gap between KL Sentral monorail station and NU Sentral shopping mall would become closer.

which mean, monorail needs to take a very sharp curve to run along Jalan Tun Sambanthan from it's current station. and i dont think NU Sentral allows monorail to ruin their beautiful facade with that ugly concrete track...

[argory]

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

which mean, monorail needs to take a very sharp curve to run along Jalan Tun Sambanthan from it's current station. and i dont think NU Sentral allows monorail to ruin their beautiful facade with that ugly concrete track...

I think there might be problems connecting/ extending at Titiwangsa (levels, configuration, etc.).

[allurban]

Originally Posted by KelvinKoh

yup, i think MRT should serve Jalan Parlimen, but not to have station there. bcoz Parliament is not a public access building and not even a tourist spot, and i dont think MP would ever take MRT to Parliament.

which mean, monorail needs to take a very sharp curve to run along Jalan Tun Sambanthan from it's current station. and i dont think NU Sentral allows monorail to ruin their beautiful facade with that ugly concrete track...

the station can be on Jalan Parliamen but not at the Parliament buildings. How about at Lake Gardens?

Another one can be Bank Negara/Bandaraya

no, think of a new monorail line starting at the KL Sentral monorail station - but built over Jalan Tun Sambanthan.

And, as for the concrete track spoiling their facade, Prasarana is proposing an MRT that will be elevated through Brickfields...the portal is at the YMCA...

So would they prefer a concrete track or guideway?

Cheers, m

[allurban]

Originally Posted by argory

I think there might be problems connecting/ extending at Titiwangsa (levels, configuration, etc.).

no need to connect. Just stop the monorail short of Titiwangsa and build a pedestrian bridge over the LRT guideway.

That is the cheap way to do it and I wouldnt be surprised if that it what ends up happening.

Cheers, m

[TWK90]

Half waist platform door is in operation in Bukit Bintang station...

[argory]

Originally Posted by allurban

no need to connect. Just stop the monorail short of Titiwangsa and build a pedestrian bridge over the LRT guideway.

That is the cheap way to do it and I wouldnt be surprised if that it what ends up happening.

Cheers, m

Cheap and messy. But then again, whats new about that anyway.

[allurban]

Originally Posted by TWK90

Half waist platform door is in operation in Bukit Bintang station...

good news. Last time I was there was in march and I noticed that they were setting up the platform to make use of all the doors ... I thought maybe they would initiate a separation of alighting and boarding to reduce crowding at the station.

Train comes in, passengers alight, train moves, new set of passengers board.

Do send me some photos of the platform door if you have them.

Cheers, m

[TWK90]

Platform door in Bukit Bintang monorail station

[nazrey]

Originally Posted by allurban

I thought maybe they would initiate a separation of alighting and boarding to reduce crowding at the station.

Train comes in, passengers alight, train moves, new set of passengers board.

Cheers, m

Ermmm!! Ada feel!!!!

[nazrey]

Buatan Malaysia
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[arief_malaysia96]

Originally Posted by TWK90

Platform door in Bukit Bintang monorail station

baru la selamat skit..........sebelum nie xder lg platform door nie.....sblum nie,msa sy tunggu monorail...... takut gak klau ada apa2 bnda yg buruk brlaku sbb sblum nie xder lg platform door nie...............tmbah2 lagi klau ada budak kecil.......

[hafidz jon]

half height psd and new floor....(not so new)

wonder if they will install this type of psd at other station like Imbi and KL Sentral.

[nazrey]

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