St Peter's Square Regeneration

[future.architect]

Originally Posted by timo

i'm no veggie but you wouldn't have caught me eating in there, hell no

a friend of mine use to pay a £12 round fare from castlefield to allen's about once weekly late on friday evenings as he loved it so much

I am no veggie in the slightest but I would have rather have eaten my own penis than eaten in Allen's.

[kids]

there is genuinley nothing wrong with Allen's chicken.

[highriser]

Disgusting place , glad to see the back of it .

[timo]

so now all the retail is vacated does anybody know what happens next? and when?

[Priscilla QOTD]

Allen's Chicken =

Good riddance.

[tucbiscuit]

allen's was great!!!!!!!!!!!!


at least it seemed so at 3am after Love Train at Royales

[dd528]

I'd rather see Allen's shut than Elisabeth House remain standing for one minute longer than necessary, but many of the other businesses (Don Giovanni's, the pharmacy, etc.) seem to have managed to relocate in the general vicinity, so I'm not sure why Allen's couldn't have done the same. Never seemed to have a problem getting trade in the evening, what with all the clubs in the area.

[GShutty]

Originally Posted by dd528

I'm not sure why Allen's couldn't have done the same (relocated).

Same with the Dutch Pancake House.

[dd528]

Originally Posted by GShutty

Same with the Dutch Pancake House.

Aye. Ah well, I'm sure new titans of the Manchester culinary scene will rise up in their stead.

[Alexis*27]

allen's was great!!!!!!!!!!!!


at least it seemed so at 3am after Love Train at Royales

Oh yeah - I'm off for my annual trip to the LT next Wednesday. Thursday morning booked off at work!

[jrb]

Place North West.

Council launches St Peters Square design competition
25 Jan 2010, 09:13


The eagerly anticipated contest to redesign St Peters Square in central Manchester has opened to bidders.

The £20m contract is due to start on site in January 2011 and last 12 months. The winning architect will be expected to enhance the open space in the heart of the city through reduced traffic use - all except Metrolink trams are likely to be barred - and create a better setting for the existing monuments and peace gardens.

The contest is key to the civic complex renewal programme that includes refurbishment of the Town Hall Extension and Central Library nearby.

A fee of £7,500 will be paid to each of the shortlisted architects which make it through to the detailed design stage. No more than six practices will be shortlisted.

Earlier contests were won last year by Ian Simpson Architects for the Town Hall Extension and Ryder Architects, the Central Library.

St Peters Square could see around 1m sq ft of new offices built in the next decade, anchored around One St Peter's Square by Argent and Greater Manchester Property Venture Fund.

The deadline for expressions of interest is 23 February 2010 at 7pm. The council will hold a supplier's briefing on 3 February 2010 at 10am in the Great Hall of the Town Hall to outline the brief in more detail. Details of how to register for the briefing are included with the PQQ documentation.

For the PQQ details and to register interest, contact the local authority construction procurement portal The Chest North West.

https://www.thechest.nwce.gov.uk/pro...=supplier_home

[timo]

january 2011? so it is going to stay in its current sorry state for the whole of this year?

MEH

[Seasonedbest]

Originally Posted by timo

january 2011? so it is going to stay in its current sorry state for the whole of this year?

MEH

Yeah, but when Elisabeth House is comes down and work starts on SPQ, it will look like a proper construction site for a long time. But if the Library and Town hall ex are shut for refubs, there won't be much going on around there to do anyway.

[timo]

a construction site is preferable to what is there now

[nerd]

Originally Posted by jrb

Place North West.

very interesting jrb.

I hope that the City Council havn't dropped a bollock on this one: I belileve that the St Peter's cross (i.e. the area to the north of the cenotaph) remains legally a cemetery; as the occupants of the vaults of the former St Peter's church were sealed in, rather than relocated in 1910. It follows that any proposals will have to got through the Diocesan Advisory structure of the Manchester Diocese, and will require faculty approval from the Consistory court. Unless they have already got the Diocese participating in the competititon (and there is nothing in the pro-contract invitation to say this is so), I cannot see their getting through all the neccessary legal procedures in the time supposedly available.

[CDX]

That date quoted as 'start on site' is surely just the start of the design process proper

Estimated contract start date:
10/01/2011
Estimated contract end date:
09/01/2012

This schedule from Oct-09 doesn't suggest an appointment of main contractor until September 2012...with a completion in 2014.

Originally Posted by CDX

Dates from the Town Hall refurb masterplan:

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_do...Complex_1_.pdf

Ties in with gaining planning consent at the end of Jan 2012.

[heatonparkincakes]

Yeah I wondered that about St Peters ex-church, but as I know there is some very particular laws about churches and graveyards, I keep quiet on this.

Seems that the square will return to how it felt for me as a kid when my hippie uncle took me to Yanks records in the 80s. Run down big style.

[jrb]

Manchester City Council
Report for Resolution
Report To: Executive – 10 February 2010
Subject: The Civic Quarter Regeneration Framework
Report of: The Chief Executive

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_do...Quarter_1_.pdf

[jrb]

MEN.

Debate flop for £20m revamp
Deborah Linton

February 08, 2010

Only three members of the public have responded to a consultation over a £20m revamp of St Peter’s Square and Central Library.

Plans were announced last year but after the council sent out information and consultation documents to businesses and residents it was surprised to get just six responses.

Three replies came from the public. One was from the Greater Manchester Passenger Transport Executive, one from consultancy firm Ernst & Young, based in Barbirolli Square, and the other from the Radisson Edwardian Hotel.

Hotel bosses expressed concern about plans to transform the former Theatre Royal site into a 15-storey building, which would be home to the Library Theatre and a hotel.

The five other responses were generally positive, according to papers going before the town hall executive next week .

City bosses said they were disappointed with the response but confident the public was behind plans that will see the city’s Civic Quarter, which includes ten Grade I and II listed buildings, transformed over the next four years.

Council spokesman Coun Bernard Priest said: “From all the discussions we’ve had about the Civic Quarter, I’m confident that the general public have indicated their strong support.

“I think I can be confident that this is not something that should worry us, disappoint us maybe.”

The Civic Quarter is being regenerated as part of a £165m project, getting under way this summer, to restore and revamp the Town Hall.

The St Peter’s Square scheme will involve restoring Central Library and Library Walk as well as many surrounding buildings.

Plans to create a 14-storey office block on the site of Grade-II listed Elisabeth House go before the city’s planning committee next week.

[WatcherZero]

Im afraid hes right, if a consultation comes back with little response and no public outrage then it means the public support it. Its much harder for them to become enthused about something than to become hostile to it.