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Old November 15th, 2016, 08:15 PM   #341
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Ok, you're right about that. However, are there any European (except Russian) goods going by train to China, or only Chinese goods coming to Europe?
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Ok, you're right about that. However, are there any European (except Russian) goods going by train to China, or only Chinese goods coming to Europe?
Yes. I haven't got time to find the details right now but there is trade flowing in the Eastward direction; not all of the containers being returned are empty.

There is, as you might expect, still quite an imbalance between the Westward and Eastward trades.

But the situation is improving. From Germany, for example, there are containers being sent by train to the Far East which contain high-value automotive components and machinery.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 09:00 PM   #343
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One example I can immediately provide for you is the DB Cargo service from Leipzig to China:

From Leipzig to Shenyang every day

Admittedly, this particular train is for one single client - BMW. Nevertheless, it illustrates the potential of trade flowing Eastward by train out of Europe.
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Old November 15th, 2016, 09:46 PM   #344
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And here's an example of the potential for Eastward trade from Poland:

Belt and Road Initiative provides opportunity for Polish orchards
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Old November 16th, 2016, 10:34 AM   #345
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Ok, so there is also trade from Europe to China by train. I only ever heard of the other direction.
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Old November 16th, 2016, 01:46 PM   #346
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You would think there would be. The trade balance Europe/China is roughly equal. Now, the European goods are likely overall higher in value, lower in volume, but still plenty to ship.
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Old November 25th, 2016, 12:27 PM   #347
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New freight train linking China to Europe
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Old January 20th, 2017, 10:07 AM   #348
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First direct train from China to England.

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First direct train from China to England.

This week a freight train loaded with goods from the Chinese city of Yiwu arrived. The trip is part of China's commitment to international rail transport.

After 18 days of traveling the train reached London via the Channel Tunnel. The freight-train consisted of 34 cars from the Chinese city of Yiwu.

The train's starting point is an industrial town and the train was loaded with goods manufactured there, such as household goods, clothing and bags.

Transporting goods by rail, is faster than by ship and the cost is about half of what air would cost.

The magazine Shanghaiist reports on the project as the train included in: a commitment from the Chinese government on a new "Silk Road"
where goods from the country is transported by rail.



The train is a direct freight-service and transhipment is done at several places like in Dostyk, Kazakstan.
Then the train goes on 1520mm tracks through Kazakstahan, Russia, Belarus to Brest until it reaches the Polish border where the shipment is loaded onto 1435mm wagons.
A third reloading is done in Duisburg, Germany to wagons approved for the Channel Tunnel, they finally end up in Barking, east London.

According to the DB 40,000 containers where shipped on trains China-Europe in 2016. The number is expected to increase to 100,000 in 2020
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Old January 20th, 2017, 12:11 PM   #349
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Then the train goes on 1520mm tracks through Kazakstahan, Russia, Belarus to Brest until it reaches the Polish border where the shipment is loaded onto 1435mm wagons.
A third reloading is done in Duisburg, Germany to wagons approved for the Channel Tunnel, they finally end up in Barking, east London.
Cannot wagons good for Chunnel travel all the way to Brest?
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Old January 20th, 2017, 05:35 PM   #350
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Cannot wagons good for Chunnel travel all the way to Brest?
My guess is that chunnel travel demands higher safety standards that the continental waggons dont meet.
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Cannot wagons good for Chunnel travel all the way to Brest?
This is a good question.

The wagons that DB Cargo is using for the Duisburg-London stretch are wagons that can be used across the standard gauge network of Europe, including on routes that connect to Brest. They are not, in themselves, special.

But only certain wagons are permitted to travel along HS1. The particular wagons being used for the Duisburg-London stretch are cleared for HS1 because they are the type of wagons which were already being used for Channel Tunnel freight trains before such trains were cleared for use via HS1.
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This is a good question.

The wagons that DB Cargo is using for the Duisburg-London stretch are wagons that can be used across the standard gauge network of Europe, including on routes that connect to Brest. They are not, in themselves, special.

But only certain wagons are permitted to travel along HS1. The particular wagons being used for the Duisburg-London stretch are cleared for HS1 because they are the type of wagons which were already being used for Channel Tunnel freight trains before such trains were cleared for use via HS1.
If this transmanche service proves successful, then would it be viable to pursue a larger fleet of such wagons so that they don't have to be reloaded at Duisburg (which would knock about a day off journey time, I would imagine)?
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Old January 21st, 2017, 11:28 AM   #353
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Why do freight trains run on HS1 at very high fees?
Berne gauge?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/bu...agewanted=all&

The New York times travelled on this train from China to Holland.
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Why do freight trains run on HS1 at very high fees?
Berne gauge?
To reflect the extra maintenance costs implied by the running of freight trains, presumably? The primary purpose of the line is to convey passenger trains at 300 kph so freight operators are privileged to be able to use the route.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/21/bu...agewanted=all&

The New York times travelled on this train from China to Holland.
Except that Oostrum isn't in Holland, but in Limburg.
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First Britain-China direct freight train arrives back in China

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A new cargo train connection linking the city of Kouvola in south-eastern Finland to Xi'an in northern China has been launched today.



The train with 41 large containers, hauling Finnish machinery, timber and work wear textiles departed towards St. Petersburg and onward through Kazakhstan and further to Khorgos on Kazakhstan/ China border, where the containers will be shifted to Chinese train. The total distance is approx. 8000 km and the journey will be completed in 10 days. Already four next trains are scheduled to connect Finland and China in the near future.



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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:18 PM   #359
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GEFCO sent the first container train from China to France

The logistics company GEFCO (a subsidiary of Russian Railways) organized the first flight of a container train with a full load from China to France. The train delivered for the PSA Group (Peugeot Citroën Automobiles, French automotive concern) 40-foot containers from Wuhan (China) to Durge (north of France). The distance was 11 thousand km.

On November 3, the container train departed from Wuhan (China) and crossed Kazakhstan, Russia and Belarus. The advance of the train on the part of the route with a gauge of 1520 mm from the station Dostyk (Kazakhstan) to the station Brest (Belarus) was provided by JSC "United Transport and Logistics Company" (a subsidiary of JSC "Russian Railways"). Then the train proceeded through Poland, Germany and arrived at the terminal of Durzh (France) on November 22.

After passing the customs clearance, the cargo was delivered directly to the daughter factory PSA "Française de Mécanique" in Dourven in the north of France.
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A discussion on the topic “High-Speed Main Line Eurasia, Geopolitics and Technologies” was held in the framework of the forum "Transport of Russia 2017".

The event took place in Moscow and was attended by representatives of the expert and scientific community and machine-building and design organisations, as well as managers from Russian Railways.

Participants discussed the implementation of initiatives by Russia and China to create a high-speed Eurasia transport corridor at a time when the transport industry is undergoing digital transformation.

"Imagine the movement of freight and passengers from the border of China to the border of Europe in just one day, or from any city in China or South-East Asia to any city in Europe in two or three days. We have done a preliminary feasibility study of the project and concluded that the construction would take 8 years. Without a doubt, the creation of the high-speed network is a great technological challenge," said Alexander Misharin, First Deputy CEO of OJSC Russian Railways.

The total length of the Beijing-Moscow-Berlin line will be about 9,500 kilometres, including 6,700 km of newly constructed lines and 2,300 km across Russia.

By integrating the transport systems of the countries of Asia, Russia and the European Union, the largest high-speed network in the world will be created and have a total length of more than 50,000 km.

The participants of the discussion noted that the implementation of this global project is impossible without the use of modern information technologies and the principles of the "Digital Railway" concept.

The "Digital Railway" concept was developed by OJSC Russian Railways and assumes the wide application of technologies such as the Internet of Things, Big Data, Virtual and Augmented Reality and Digital Modelling and Building Information Modelling (BIM) for the creation of linear infrastructure facilities.

"The organisation of transcontinental freight and passenger traffic requires the creation of a multi-purpose terminal infrastructure along the freight route, with the possibility of providing the entire range of logistics services, door-to-door freight delivery. Important features of the terminals will be their integration into functional multimodal transport hubs and the use of so-called seamless technologies. Multipurpose intermodal terminals using modern technologies will lead to a reduction of up to 70% of non-productive costs, and that in turn means increased efficiency," said Alexander Misharin.

At the event, the opening ceremony was held of the Russian-Chinese Scientific and Educational Centre for the development of rolling stock and the interaction between rolling stock and rail transport infrastructure.

The Centre has been established at the Moscow State University of Railways, in conjunction with the Chinese machine building corporation CRRC and leading scientific institutions involved in rail transport.

It has been set up in order to conduct joint research and training in the development of rolling stock for high-speed railways.

"This is an important event that will unite the efforts of scientists and developers of China's universities and China’s leading railway engineering company CRRC with Russian universities and science. The creation of new rolling stock capable of speeds of up to 400 kph and more, using modern technologies in the field of energy efficiency, the environment and noise, improving the quality of services and comfort for passengers based on modern digital technologies, the use of new materials and implementing new solutions – all these are enormous tasks. We firmly believe that the Centre will become the basis for the development of these technologies in the future," said Alexander Misharin.
http://eng.rzd.ru/newse/public/en?ST...=704&id=107198
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