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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:25 AM   #61
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Excellent tower! What makes it better than the rest is that its clad in stone; this is something I've been waiting to see built for years. Goes to show that stone hasn't gone out of fashion yet
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Old May 7th, 2008, 03:22 AM   #62
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any updates on this beauty?
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Old May 7th, 2008, 03:37 AM   #63
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Construction will start pretty soon.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 03:37 AM   #64
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Excellent news, why aren't there more towers like this?
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Old May 7th, 2008, 03:50 AM   #65
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^because the boxy trend landed in NYC again.
Well,it landed in the many other cities as well
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Old May 7th, 2008, 03:57 AM   #66
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^because the boxy trend landed in NYC again.
Well,it landed in the many other cities as well
99 church still is a box, because its clad in stone doesn't change anything about its shape lol
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Old May 7th, 2008, 04:01 AM   #67
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Thinking that most boxy buildings are bad/cheap/uninspiring is honestly retarded. Shape isn't always a major factor.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 04:21 AM   #68
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99 church still is a box, because its clad in stone doesn't change anything about its shape lol
It doesn't seem to look that boxy.I see it more like a retro Art-Deco Building with a zigurath shape than a box itself.

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Thinking that most boxy buildings are bad/cheap/uninspiring is honestly retarded. Shape isn't always a major factor.
External shape is one the most important stuff when you make a building.That's what causes the sensations,the inspiration and that all.A lot of boxes like you see in any other city around the globe doesn't cause you any kind of new sensation.
Of course that only because a building is a box doesn't mean it's crap.It can ve useful and comfortable in the inside,but when you talk about the urban enviroment and all the million of people who will see just the exterior of it,a boring box is still a boring box.

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Old May 7th, 2008, 05:49 AM   #69
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99 church still is a box, because its clad in stone doesn't change anything about its shape lol
It's not anymore boxy than the ESB, if you consider that boxy.
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Old May 7th, 2008, 07:46 AM   #70
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Clearly shape plays in major role in terms of functional design but in terms of how people will react to the design, its no where as important, but can be it that was what's intended. It could be shaped exactly like a flower, in every detail, but that doesn't mean it will produce a great reaction or look good, like the real flower does, or make people think highly of it. A building of any shape can be transformed, save its shape, and turn from gold to nothing or from nothing to gold. In terms of towers, as long as it seems to be soaring, to me, shape should not be considered a big factor when considering the greatness of a building. Or perhaps what I am trying to reinforce is the fact that you should not judge biasedly just because of the form of a building, yet I suppose that everyone has their own opinions, but, to sum it all up perfectly, you can't judge from a silhouette alone. There's so much more, and most people ignorantly ignore the other factors because they see shape and nothing more.
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Old May 8th, 2008, 12:43 AM   #71
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It looks very similar to the other 4 seasons tower.

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Old May 21st, 2008, 04:40 PM   #72
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 07:54 AM   #73
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Thinking that most boxy buildings are bad/cheap/uninspiring is honestly retarded. Shape isn't always a major factor.
On this point, i would also agree......... in my assessment of any building, it's massing, and that massing within the surrounding areas buildings or landscape is also an important factor.
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Old May 25th, 2008, 02:35 AM   #74
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On this point, i would also agree......... in my assessment of any building, it's massing, and that massing within the surrounding areas buildings or landscape is also an important factor.
I agree fully, this building fits in perfectly! Excellent updates.
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Old May 25th, 2008, 08:38 AM   #75
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I think that when we see a side view, and a better render,
we all will like it better than some of the "boxes" in lower Manhattan.
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Old June 13th, 2008, 07:58 PM   #76
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Old June 14th, 2008, 05:47 AM   #77
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This tower is a great addition to this part of town!!!
Go New York!!!
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Old June 21st, 2008, 04:52 PM   #78
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Name changed from 99 Church street to 30 Park Place, can a mod please change it?

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bonus shot of barclay


And i like the classical look at the ground floor of Barclay
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Barclay is one bulky condo that could've looked amazing if it were much narrow with a square crown rather than a rectangular one.
It does have a nice base though. Can't wait to see this new building up and done. I've had just about enough of these blue glass towers going up, it's about time we throw some stone in there...
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