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Old August 16th, 2015, 01:24 AM   #1801
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I honestly think that it doesn't even belong in this decade. Sorry but I think it just looks weird to build a building in Lower Manhattan that looks outdated. I don't hate it, I just don't care for it.
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boring design or not, its very luxurious inside plus the view, therefore not affordable for sure.
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Old August 16th, 2015, 04:35 AM   #1803
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Old August 16th, 2015, 08:54 PM   #1804
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Looks good. It looks much better in real life than the renderings imo.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 01:01 AM   #1805
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I honestly think that it doesn't even belong in this decade. Sorry but I think it just looks weird to build a building in Lower Manhattan that looks outdated. I don't hate it, I just don't care for it.
Well, what does exactly 'belong in this decade'? A bland, utilitarian glass monolith - devoid of any architectural heart and soul? This is far superior, in virtually every way, than anything the majority of contemporary-style architects could even begin to comprehend. This is what real architecture looks like. It is a symbol and architectural-marvel of our age, and something modernist architects ought to aspire to.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #1806
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They just renovated our train station back to the way it was originally built I believe in the turn of the century. The craftsmanship and detail is amazing and it is nice to know that those skilled tradesmen still exist. I feel the same way about this building. I sure hope the inside will also allow those guys to show off their talent.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 02:02 AM   #1807
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Well, what does exactly 'belong in this decade'? A bland, utilitarian glass monolith - devoid of any architectural heart and soul? This is far superior, in virtually every way, than anything the majority of contemporary-style architects could even begin to comprehend. This is what real architecture looks like. It is a symbol and architectural-marvel of our age, and something modernist architects ought to aspire to.
Well I'm just saying in terms of looks it looks like something that would've been built in the 1930s. I mean yeah some of the best pieces of architecture came out of that time but this is 2015. No reason to dwindle in the past design wise. I wouldn't say it's an architectural marvel of our age though, to me it's just a filler.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 03:07 AM   #1808
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It all depends on how you look at it. The signature tower that ushered in the luxury condominium boom is a building by the same architect in the same modernized 1930s style, 15CPW. And there are two other high-profile towers like this going up right now. Like it or not, this is a building of the times, it's rare because buildings like these are the at the extreme high end.

Certainly the majority of buildings these days aren't like this, but even if it doesn't fit the majority, it definitely fits the context. It's a building that reflects where it's built. And what other city in the world/what other architect is building something like it? A generic filler tower is something that could be built anywhere.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 05:26 AM   #1809
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Guys sorry for this as it may digress from the topic, but i was browsing James Edition website and i found a listing for a penthouse in Manhattan for over 100 Mil. Anyone know what building that is? Is it that new tallest apartment building?
Edit: It's note the penthouse on the One57 building

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Old August 17th, 2015, 05:58 AM   #1810
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Old August 17th, 2015, 08:27 AM   #1811
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Old August 17th, 2015, 02:13 PM   #1812
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They just renovated our train station back to the way it was originally built I believe in the turn of the century. The craftsmanship and detail is amazing and it is nice to know that those skilled tradesmen still exist. I feel the same way about this building. I sure hope the inside will also allow those guys to show off their talent.
Do you happen to have any pictures?
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I honestly think that it doesn't even belong in this decade. Sorry but I think it just looks weird to build a building in Lower Manhattan that looks outdated. I don't hate it, I just don't care for it.
...the main problem being that it dwarfs the magnificent Woolworth!
Also,Hateman is right:56 Leonard would have been great...

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Old August 17th, 2015, 11:37 PM   #1815
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...the main problem being that it dwarfs the magnificent Woolworth!
Also,Hateman is right:56 Leonard would have been great...
Hardly. Woolworth is still visible from virtually every same viewpoint as it was prior to 30 Park Place's construction. Besides, it was obvious that some sort of tower was going to developed in the spot where 30 Park Place is, regardless. I'm sure you wouldn't rather yet another glass monolith instead, would you? 30 Park Place is in fine keeping of the aesthetics of the area.
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Old August 17th, 2015, 11:50 PM   #1816
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30 Park Place ennobles the skyline.

Wouldn't trade it for another glass tower, even if it was taller.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 12:32 AM   #1817
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First bit of the crown's Ralph Walker homage is visible on the webcam:

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Old August 18th, 2015, 06:03 AM   #1818
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It all depends on how you look at it. The signature tower that ushered in the luxury condominium boom is a building by the same architect in the same modernized 1930s style, 15CPW. And there are two other high-profile towers like this going up right now. Like it or not, this is a building of the times, it's rare because buildings like these are the at the extreme high end.

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Maybe once it's complete and the facade is done I'll have a change of heart. I agree that the 30s art deco style is the style of New York and that NYC buildings should pay some sort of homage to that style. I'm just a sucker for modern/futuristic architecture.
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Old August 18th, 2015, 09:27 AM   #1819
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Old August 20th, 2015, 08:34 AM   #1820
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the crown looks nice,


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