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Old November 7th, 2015, 04:39 PM   #1921
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Old November 7th, 2015, 04:48 PM   #1922
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Old November 7th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #1923
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Larry Silverstein: I wish I’d never sold any of my Manhattan holdings

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Old November 8th, 2015, 03:03 AM   #1924
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Anybody catch the advertisement in the New York Times Magazine this weekend? Great new rendering.
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Old November 9th, 2015, 11:06 PM   #1925
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exterior renderings are almost unnecessary at this point.The tower speaks for itself.


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Old November 9th, 2015, 11:28 PM   #1926
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Old November 10th, 2015, 08:28 AM   #1927
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Old November 10th, 2015, 09:38 AM   #1928
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Old November 10th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #1929
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An Exclusive Look Inside New York's Four World Trade Center


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The more traditional 30 Park Place is visible just a bit to the east, a 67-storey tower also developed by Silverstein Properties. Robert A.M. Stern Architects designed the building in the vernacular style Stern is famous for.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 06:25 AM   #1930
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Old November 16th, 2015, 10:31 PM   #1931
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30 Park Place Tour Offers Exclusive Glimpse of Stern Tower

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With its limestone and precast concrete exterior substantially complete, work on the luxurious interiors of 30 Park Place in New York City is now the focus. Developed by the prolific Manhattan-based Silverstein Properties, the 67-storey building contains a mix of residential and hotel uses. SkyriseCities recently had the opportunity to tour the majestic Robert A.M. Stern Architects-designed building, taking in the views and getting a glimpse of the spaces that residents and guests will soon enjoy.


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Old November 16th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #1932
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This tower looks nice in the skyline and is way better then a blue glass box. But i am very disappointed by the very uncreative and detailless attempt of art deco on this tower. It looks tacky to me and uninspired. It´s a overhyped building , IMO. Nothing else.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 03:29 AM   #1933
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It's probably because there isn't so much stuff going on on this tower. Some setbacks, and some plastering, yes, but not a three dimensional facade, with this long, vertical, gothic inpired elements, seen on nearly every 30's Art Deco facade.

If you compare this building to Steinway, or One 57, this vertical elements are the biggest thing missing at this building. Instead it got a more or less random changing scheme of how the windows are arranged, to brake up the monotony of the big plane of the facade, but that's not the best way in my opinion. I'd rather like to see a lot of (small) setbacks for this, they can create the same effect and let the building float more into the sky, like 220 CPS.

Setbacks in general: If you got those vertical elements, you don't need the small setbacks, but big setbecks, over the whole width of a floor, are important for the overall proportions of the building. I think here is a bit to much mass in the tower and not enough in the base. So the base should be higer, or the upper part split into more blocks, make it less a box, and less agressive. (It happend a bit, the edges with the small setbacks at nearly base level, are way less sharp then they could have been, if Stern had went full box).

Actually some actual buildings, build in other architectural styles, meld these very unspecific aspects of the Art Deco towers in themselves — 8 Spruce Street and 56 Leonard — and although I normaly don't like these styles, they don't disturb the skyline at all, fit in very well, not as the jewls, but as a nice contrast to the other buildings, highlighting them.
Not that 30 Park Place would disturb the skyline, but it could have done better, especially if you compare it to Woolworth right next door.
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Old November 17th, 2015, 10:39 PM   #1934
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It's true, setbacks do have a positive effect on towers. That's why a ''could be boring albeit massive international style box'' turned out to be one the greatest skyscrapers ever. ( i.e. the Willis Tower )
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Old November 19th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #1935
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I think the monotony will lesson as it ages. Dirt and weathering will accent joints and detail in the the facade.
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Old November 19th, 2015, 08:35 AM   #1936
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Its not the greatest tower ever...but it came out relatively nice. I think we need to remember that this is not a 1920's art deco tower so it is not going to be a woolworth. For what it is it came out pretty good.
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Old November 19th, 2015, 09:29 AM   #1937
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Old November 19th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #1938
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This tower fits nicely in Downtown. From Brooklyn I could barely pick it out but it adds to the skyscraper mountain that is Downtown.
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Old November 22nd, 2015, 03:54 AM   #1939
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Old November 25th, 2015, 11:11 AM   #1940
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