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Old April 21st, 2008, 08:01 PM   #61
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I cant say I'm thrilled with the proposed design....considering what we are losing .....The new design looks like a jumped up council estate to me.

For those of you that haven't seen inside Chelsea Barracks as it is now....here's a few recent pictures.

The campus from the roof of Broome House





London from the roof of Broome House



The chapel.....I really hope this is going to be preserved in the development...





It was a mini town in there.....gym, swimming pool, Naafi, Social club, serveral bars ,armoury , Medical/dental Centre...as well as several tunnels under the barracks
The armoury





The gym
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 03:11 PM   #62
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Fascinating pics, as always, Downfallen - Cheers!

According to an earlier post by Luke "The old victorian chapel in the barracks will be demolished under the current proposals."

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Old April 22nd, 2008, 05:31 PM   #63
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I have that picture. Ahahaha might be Nukes under there
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Old May 13th, 2008, 06:59 PM   #64
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A couple of pics of Make's Grosvenor Waterside development currently on display at the Building Centre, looking seriously sixties!



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Old May 13th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #65
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Its what I expected actually- It keeps that Parkland feeling-should be called im Dreamin of the Home Counties- but its Ok
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Old May 14th, 2008, 08:31 AM   #66
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should be called im Dreamin of the Home Counties
its what the Mayor should have called his election campaign
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Old May 15th, 2008, 05:24 AM   #67
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fitz, can i use those images on skyscrapernews to illustrate the project please?
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Old May 15th, 2008, 07:14 AM   #68
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Why do you guys care if Westminster cut the height from 13 to 7 storeys? It's not as if 13 storeys is any kind of "skyscraper" so it's not as if some tall slender beauty has been lost. Indeed limiting the height to 7 storeys might make the development a little less hulking and overbearing.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #69
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a bit of variation? More density? I think a couple of taller structures either end would help to define the area better.
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Old May 29th, 2008, 11:23 AM   #70
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Majors chase £4bn deal

Balfour Beatty, Bovis Lend Lease, Sir Robert McAlpine and Mace have been lined up to bid for a £4 billion luxury housing scheme.

The four firms are understood to have been chosen by developer Project Blue (Guernsey) to bid for the deal to demolish the former home of the Queen's Guard on Chelsea Bridge Road, replacing it with a luxury apartment-led mixed use scheme.

The development, designed by architects Rogers Stirk + Harbour and Allford Hall Monaghan Morris, is being project managed by luxury residential specialist Candy & Candy.

Half the scheme's 638 flats are expected to join those of other Candy & Candy projects such as 1 Hyde Park and Noho Square as being among the most expensive homes in the capital, which regularly see price tags top £20 million a flat.

The remaining 319 homes are being developed as more affordable homes, while the scheme will also involve building a 108 bedroom boutique hotel, 2,200 sq m of retail space and a community sports centre.

Project Blue (Guernsey) is jointly owned by a Qatari government investment group and CPC, a company owned by Christian Candy - one of the Candy brothers.

In February it completed a £959 million purchase of the site from the Ministry of Defence, while the value of the completed development is reported to be as high as £4 billion.

One project source said: "You might think that the state of the housing market would put a hold on big housing jobs but this is in a whole different world.

"The kind of people buying these homes won't need a mortgage so the credit crunch doesn't affect them, which means the development can move forward to the building phase."

At least three of the bidders have links to Candy & Candy, with project sources claiming there is no clear favourite for the work.

Planning documents reveal that Balfour Beatty Management worked with engineers URS to help work up proposals for the scheme, while Mace is currently building the Candy & Candy-managed Noho Square in Fitzrovia. Former Bovis Lend Lease staff John Howell and Rod King left the firm to join Candy & Candy as construction director and residential commercial director respectively.

And Sir Robert McAlpine is nearing the end of its high-profile scheme to turn the former home of Arsenal Football Club at Highbury, north London, into exclusive flats.

Enabling works for the job are understood to already be underway for completion by the end of the year. Brown & Mason begins demolition work next month with the soft strip with the entire contract running for 12 months.

Excavating the basement for the scheme will take a further year with building work for the apartments pencilled in to last around two years, although works may be phased. The overall development is scheduled to take six years to complete.

Show home takes to the skies

The designers of the London Eye have been taken on to design the world's first 'flying' marketing suite for the Chelsea Barracks project.

Planning documents submitted last month to City Of Westminster Council reveal the developer has enlisted leading architect Marks Barfield to design the suite.

This will feature a display apartment for prospective customers that can be raised up to 18 m above ground level to give an idea of the view from the completed apartments.

The raising mechanism will stop at various levels in order to show the views from different apartments.

It will take five minutes to rise to its full height.

The lifting mechanism for the suite has been designed by structural engineer Atelier One and will function using a counterweight linked to eight chains that will raise the suite up on a central mast.

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Old June 1st, 2008, 11:37 AM   #71
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fitz, can i use those images on skyscrapernews to illustrate the project please?
Yup go for it gothic!
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Old June 2nd, 2008, 02:49 PM   #72
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Old June 24th, 2008, 01:48 PM   #73
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Candy Brothers v the Duke in battle of Chelsea barracks
Mira Bar-Hillel, Property Correspondent
24.06.08
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Britain's richest property owner is taking on London's most fashionable developers in a row over the transformation of Chelsea Barracks.

Gerald Grosvenor, Duke of Westminster, has objected to proposals by Christian and Nick Candy for the site, which was acquired last year from the Ministry of Defence for £1billion.

The Duke's Grosvenor Estate, which borders the site, has called the brothers' plans "monotonous" and "out of context".

Christian Candy's offshore company, CPC, with Qatari Diar, the development arm of Qatar's ruling family, is proposing 638 flats in buildings up to 13 storeys high, which would tower over the existing fabric of Belgravia.

Half the homes would be private flats designed by Lord Rogers facing Chelsea Bridge Road. On Westminster council's insistence, the other half would be "affordable" units. These will be designed by architects AHMM and will face Ebury Bridge Road.

The two sides will be separated by a "linear park", leading to complaints that the community will be segregated.

The plans, lodged with Westminster, were attacked by the Duke, whose Mayfair and Belgravia property empire is worth about £7 billion, in a letter to the council's chief planner, Rosemary McQueen, from Grosvenor Estate director Nigel Hughes.

He said the scheme was "right neither for the site, for the future occupiers, for the existing neighbours nor for the City of Westminster".

He added that while existing homes in the area were brick-built, pitched-roof houses of up to three storeys, the designs by Lord Rogers were typical of the industrial look he favours, mainly metal-clad and "more akin to office complexes". The buildings, and a proposed 108-room hotel and restaurant, were "monotonous, repetitive, totally out of scale and out of context", contrary to the council's brief.

Mr Hughes claimed the segregation of private and social housing went against the council's intention to create an inclusive community.

Locals have formed the Barracks Opposition Group. James Wright, chairman of Belgravia Residents Associationa member of BOG, endorsed the Grosvenor Estate report.

He said: "This site provided a rare chance to celebrate the best in a beautiful corner of this city. Instead, it looks like they're replacing one barracks with another.

"I am particularly appalled by the design of the social housing, which looks exactly like the slab blocks built by councils in the Sixties. Have we learned nothing since making those mistakes?" Other well-known names who have voiced their concerns and joined the objections over the plans include Roxy Music star Bryan Ferry, actor Rupert Everett and socialite Sir Dai Llewellyn.

The developers say their proposal is "a sensitively designed, mixed-use scheme of the highest architectural quality which "contributes to the local character and townscape with particular regard afforded to the adjacent conservation areas and listed buildings within the vicinity". A spokesman said: "We are sensitive to local stakeholders and meet regularly with local residents, including Grosvenor Estates and the Belgravia Association."

The Candys are behind some of London's most expensive properties, including One Hyde Park in Knightsbridge.
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Old June 26th, 2008, 03:22 AM   #74
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Old June 30th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #75
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Old June 30th, 2008, 11:33 PM   #76
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haha...thats really funny....thing is makes apartments will be uber expensive.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 02:12 PM   #77
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You need to have seen the cladding on Grosvenor Waterside to understand how it will look - the brown cardboard model doesn't do it justice.

You go right past it on trains into/out of Victoria, and I just can't make my mind up on it. I'll wait to see it finished before passing judgement.

As for Chelsea Barracks, it does appear to be a bit of a modern-day council estate. Will be interesting to see what changes are made, if any.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 03:05 PM   #78
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haha...thats really funny....thing is makes apartments will be uber expensive.
Those Hallfield Estate ex-council flats in Bayswater are probably uber-expensive now too!
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:47 PM   #79
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haha...thats really funny....thing is makes apartments will be uber expensive.
Actually theres quite a bit of shared ownership & affordable housing in this.

Its almost fully clad now & looks quite nice. That model as chief says does not do it justice.

They are also working on the next block which is designed by Shepard Robson ( or posilby Wilkins Eyre- cant remember for certain.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 05:17 PM   #80
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The official website of the Chelsea Barracks development is an excellent resource on the project with a very detailed planning section.

http://thechelseabarracks.co.uk/
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