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gramercy · March 9th, 2012, 04:43 PM

probably not

KingNick · March 9th, 2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Verso

Any international routes affected?

How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.

Verso · March 9th, 2012, 10:22 PM

Budapest - Slovenian border, for example. I don't know about others.

Verso · March 10th, 2012, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.

Wait, do you mean loco or coaches? They change locos at the border, but all coaches on the Budapest-Ljubljana route are Slovenian (SŽ).

Attus · March 10th, 2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.

Negative. Although the train itself is a Railjet of ÖBB, the personnel is Hungarian (changed in Hegyeshalom) and the route in Hungary (Bp. Keleti - Hegyeshalom) is financed by MÁV. So actually Railjet-trains are simply hired by MÁV here, in Hungary.

KingNick · March 10th, 2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Attus

Negative. Although the train itself is a Railjet of ÖBB, the personnel is Hungarian (changed in Hegyeshalom) and the route in Hungary (Bp. Keleti - Hegyeshalom) is financed by MÁV. So actually Railjet-trains are simply hired by MÁV here, in Hungary.

Well the exchange of train staff at border stations is a normal procedure and it's one thing to rent a train or to provide one on your own. The later costs a lot more money.

nachalnik · March 10th, 2012, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

Well the exchange of train staff at border stations is a normal procedure and it's one thing to rent a train or to provide one on your own. The later costs a lot more money.

I wouldn't say so.

Of course trains are expensive, but also to renting fees have to be high enough, so that it makes sense for those railways who provide trainsets (the cost of the investment is of course included in the renting fees).

For normal passenger waggons the European railways have agreed on a common renting fee per waggon-km, it is usually about 0,6 EUR per waggon-km (a little bit less for waggons without AC).
This applies for international trains organized in the classic way: Trains consisting of locomotive + several waggons, where each railway is economically responsible for it's own part of the route.
Special regulations apply for locomotives, if they are not exchanged at border statrions.

For trainsets like ICE or also the railjet, the renting costs are based on individual agreements between the railways concerned.

Nachalnik

zsimi80 · March 27th, 2012, 10:59 PM

KingNick · March 28th, 2012, 01:13 PM

Is MAV recycling the rail track ballast?

gramercy · March 28th, 2012, 03:14 PM

some progress on the Bp-Szfv line

zsimi80 · March 28th, 2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

Is MAV recycling the rail track ballast?

Yes. Largely.

KingNick · March 30th, 2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gramercy

some progress on the Bp-Szfv line

Concrete poles in Hungary? Never seen that before.

gramercy · March 30th, 2012, 03:23 PM

yes, and the JOKE is that the concrete poles are on the OLD track...

KingNick · March 30th, 2012, 07:18 PM

How does this make any sense?

Somehow I don't see something like an overall strategy of MAV.

gramercy · March 31st, 2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

How does this make any sense?

Somehow I don't see something like an overall strategy of MAV.

indeed, but when your modus operandi is channeling hundreds of millions of euros every year to the oligarchy then things tend to get a bit bizarre

gramercy · March 31st, 2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

Concrete poles in Hungary? Never seen that before.

another:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphot...=392764&nseq=6

Qtya · April 12th, 2012, 11:53 AM

Renders and livery of the future Stadler Flirts for the "austro-hungarian" raliway, GySEV.

Source: http://iho.hu/hir/szolnokrol-sopronba-120412

KingNick · April 12th, 2012, 02:37 PM

Nice to see, that GySEV finally buys new equipment as well and not just second hand from the major players.

sekelsenmat · April 13th, 2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KingNick

How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.

When I went last year the Varsaw-Katowice-Budapest sleeper car was hungarian on both directions. The sleeper car Vienna-Budapest-Bucarest was OBB both ways.

pt640 · April 15th, 2012, 10:37 PM

photo train to closed railway line

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