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Old March 9th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #181
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:18 PM   #182
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Any international routes affected?
How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:22 PM   #183
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Budapest - Slovenian border, for example. I don't know about others.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 07:07 AM   #184
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How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.
Wait, do you mean loco or coaches? They change locos at the border, but all coaches on the Budapest-Ljubljana route are Slovenian (SŽ).
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Old March 10th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #185
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How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.
Negative. Although the train itself is a Railjet of ÖBB, the personnel is Hungarian (changed in Hegyeshalom) and the route in Hungary (Bp. Keleti - Hegyeshalom) is financed by MÁV. So actually Railjet-trains are simply hired by MÁV here, in Hungary.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 01:26 PM   #186
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Negative. Although the train itself is a Railjet of ÖBB, the personnel is Hungarian (changed in Hegyeshalom) and the route in Hungary (Bp. Keleti - Hegyeshalom) is financed by MÁV. So actually Railjet-trains are simply hired by MÁV here, in Hungary.
Well the exchange of train staff at border stations is a normal procedure and it's one thing to rent a train or to provide one on your own. The later costs a lot more money.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #187
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Well the exchange of train staff at border stations is a normal procedure and it's one thing to rent a train or to provide one on your own. The later costs a lot more money.

I wouldn't say so.

Of course trains are expensive, but also to renting fees have to be high enough, so that it makes sense for those railways who provide trainsets (the cost of the investment is of course included in the renting fees).

For normal passenger waggons the European railways have agreed on a common renting fee per waggon-km, it is usually about 0,6 EUR per waggon-km (a little bit less for waggons without AC).
This applies for international trains organized in the classic way: Trains consisting of locomotive + several waggons, where each railway is economically responsible for it's own part of the route.
Special regulations apply for locomotives, if they are not exchanged at border statrions.

For trainsets like ICE or also the railjet, the renting costs are based on individual agreements between the railways concerned.


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Is MAV recycling the rail track ballast?
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Old March 28th, 2012, 04:14 PM   #190
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some progress on the Bp-Szfv line

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Is MAV recycling the rail track ballast?
Yes. Largely.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 04:13 PM   #192
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some progress on the Bp-Szfv line
Concrete poles in Hungary? Never seen that before.
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Old March 30th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #193
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yes, and the JOKE is that the concrete poles are on the OLD track...
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How does this make any sense?

Somehow I don't see something like an overall strategy of MAV.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 01:20 PM   #195
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How does this make any sense?

Somehow I don't see something like an overall strategy of MAV.
indeed, but when your modus operandi is channeling hundreds of millions of euros every year to the oligarchy then things tend to get a bit bizarre

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Concrete poles in Hungary? Never seen that before.
another:
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Old April 12th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #197
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Old April 12th, 2012, 03:37 PM   #198
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Nice to see, that GySEV finally buys new equipment as well and not just second hand from the major players.
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How many does MAV offer anyway? I mean the Vienna - Budapest relation for instance is more or less operated exclusively by ÖBB, apart from one EN train.
When I went last year the Varsaw-Katowice-Budapest sleeper car was hungarian on both directions. The sleeper car Vienna-Budapest-Bucarest was OBB both ways.
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