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Old November 4th, 2014, 04:16 PM   #321
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Old November 4th, 2014, 04:18 PM   #322
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Old December 18th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #324
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Old January 8th, 2015, 03:19 PM   #325
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Hungary nationalises Bombardier plant
Thursday, January 08, 2015



THE Hungarian government has acquired a 64.9% stake in the carriage works at Dunakeszi near Budapest from Bombardier in a deal worth Forints 2.1bn ($US 7.8m)

Bombardier Transportation MÁV Hungary has been in the red since 2012 and the number of staff employed at the site has fallen from over 1000 in 2010 to just 370, most of whom work only two days a week.

Hungarian State Railways (MÁV) holds a 25% stake with the workforce holding the remaining 10.1% of shares.

The future of the company will depend on the ability of its new owner, the Hungarian state, to secure work for the site

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Old January 8th, 2015, 05:21 PM   #326
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MAV also aquired 55 carriages from ÖBB inkluding 6 control cars for 6.5m Euros.

http://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOT...N:HTML&tabId=2



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Old January 13th, 2015, 02:22 AM   #327
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Is Hungarian gouvernment planning to build its section of Magistrale for Europe? I am not sure, but I think Viktor Oban is not very keen on building this project. He wants to streghten ties with East and not with West. I think this track will stop in Vienna. It is a pity!!!



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Old January 13th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #328
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Is Hungarian gouvernment planning to build its section of Magistrale for Europe? I am not sure, but I think Viktor Oban is not very keen on building this project. He wants to streghten ties with East and not with West. I think this track will stop in Vienna. It is a pity!!!
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No, and I think this magistrale for Europe is not a nessesary project for Europe. Especially not for Hungary, since these would be the the most rational connections for us (Linz-Nürnberg-Frankfurt-Köln-Brussels):


But we don't need HSR in the next 25-50 years, based on the present trends, especially since the new cold war the war ruined the developmental opportunities of the East/Central-European economies.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 10:31 PM   #329
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Old January 13th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #330
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Is Hungarian gouvernment planning to build its section of Magistrale for Europe? I am not sure, but I think Viktor Oban is not very keen on building this project. He wants to streghten ties with East and not with West. I think this track will stop in Vienna. It is a pity!!!
Interesting cause and effect theory.

Being a bit more down-to-earth: First of all I can't really see where the funding will come from. It seems that the Chinese are willing to put their money in the Budapest-Belgrade line (though I would have chosen a slightly different route for it but that's a different story) but who will pay for this one?

The thing is that the Budapest-Győr-Hegyeshalom(-Vienna) line is our most important international line - and the fastest one too with possible speeds up to 140-160 km/h (after a recent two-phase rehabilitation project). Now a) this is still not even near a HSR b) there are still some corrections needed along the line before it can reach its full potential c) there is still a lot to be done elsewhere with the bottlenecks and other much worse parts of our network
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Old January 13th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #331
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Interesting cause and effect theory.

Being a bit more down-to-earth: First of all I can't really see where the funding will come from. It seems that the Chinese are willing to put their money in the Budapest-Belgrade line (though I would have chosen a slightly different route for it but that's a different story) but who will pay for this one?
That is a reconstruction of an one track freight line (without extension onto 2x1!) and not a high speed rail. An infrastructural project for the Chinese transport companies, since the Chinese investors have a port in the Balkan.

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The thing is that the Budapest-Győr-Hegyeshalom(-Vienna) line is our most important international line - and the fastest one too with possible speeds up to 140-160 km/h (after a recent two-phase rehabilitation project). Now a) this is still not even near a HSR b) there are still some corrections needed along the line before it can reach its full potential c) there is still a lot to be done elsewhere with the bottlenecks and other much worse parts of our netwo
160kmh, this speed will be the maximum in the Hungarian network in the next decades. And this is the presumably shedule, the optimist version:

before 2020: reconstruction of the Hungarian main network onto 160kmh and the main cities railway stations.

after 2020: maybee Railjet like service between the main Hungarian cities.

HSR between Vienna and Budapest after 2050 only, if some miracle happens...

And the HSR is basically not part of the Hungarian spatial planning. The theoretical trace on the spatial plans is a baseless line, without any reality. There is not a debate about the HSR, nothing. This topic is not part of the Hungarian's reality.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 11:55 PM   #332
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That is a reconstruction of an one track freight line (without extension onto 2x1!) and not a high speed rail. An infrastructural project for the Chinese transport companies, since the Chinese investors have a port in the Balkan.
Thank you but I'm familiar with that. And if I remember it correctly we share the view that the refurbished line should be / should have been the Budapest-Kecskemét-Szeged one and not line 150.

I only noted that even that improvement (it's a big improvement considering the current state of the Budapest-Kelebia line) will be possible thanks to foreign investors.
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160kmh, this speed will be the maximum in the Hungarian network in the next decades. And this is the presumably shedule, the optimist version:

before 2020: reconstruction of the Hungarian main network onto 160kmh and the main cities railway stations.

after 2020: maybee Railjet like service between the main Hungarian cities.

HSR between Vienna and Budapest after 2050 only, if some miracle happens...

And the HSR is basically not part of the Hungarian spatial planning. The theoretical trace on the spatial plans is a baseless line, without any reality. There is not a debate about the HSR, nothing. This topic is not part of the Hungarian's reality.
That is the reality - and truly the optimistic version of it - indeed.

Anyway if there will be a HSR in Hungary someday I'm quite sure the first line will go along the Budapest-Vienna route.
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Old January 13th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #333
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not to get OT for start a flame war... but I you follow the news, you should know what he meant by it
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Anyway if there will be a HSR in Hungary someday I'm quite sure the first line will go along the Budapest-Vienna route.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #335
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No, and I think this magistrale for Europe is not a nessesary project for Europe. Especially not for Hungary, since these would be the the most rational connections for us (Linz-Nürnberg-Frankfurt-Köln-Brussels):


But we don't need HSR in the next 25-50 years, based on the present trends, especially since the new cold war the war ruined the developmental opportunities of the East/Central-European economies.
Budapesht-Moscow via Poland/Belarus looks dumb, and avoiding Brest looks even dumber
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Budapesht-Moscow via Poland/Belarus looks dumb, and avoiding Brest looks even dumber
The Poles and the Russians build HSR only, so Belarussia and Slovakia are the shortest connection between Budapest, Berlin and Moscow. And the Warsaw-Moscow connection basically a straight line as the highway here.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #337
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What is the maximum speed of trains in Hungary?
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Old January 17th, 2015, 05:03 PM   #338
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Nope Russia aren't building HSR at the moment, and doesn't have any plans for HSR in Western part of the country.
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What is the maximum speed of trains in Hungary?
160 km/h on the Budapest - Hegyeshalom railway line.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #340
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And what's the highest speed on the upgraded line to Slovenia? It didn't seem 160 km/h to me when I drove there.
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