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Old June 22nd, 2009, 01:30 PM   #61
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That's exactly the case.

The positive point is that - contrary to Polish HS plans - the project is international.

With the CEE networks so neglected there should be a basis of international cooperation of CEE railways to reestablish well operating connections. Now they are lacking.
well the flipside is that the line between budapest-wienna is already 160 kph and it could easily be upgraded to 200 kph on most of its length (the testing of new vechicles takes place on this line at this speed..)

so if a 360kph link existed from downtown paris to downtown vienna, then this would be the way to go
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 03:36 AM   #62
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200 can quite easily be achieved on conventional lines, while 300+ requires a line which is completely separate. Above all, I don't see train travel take over business from airplanes from Paris to Vienna and Budapest, but I do see train travel take over between Vienna and Budapest, between Paris and Frankfurt, between Frankfurt and Munchen, between Frankfurt and Vienna. And for these purposes, 200 is sufficient for the next couple of decades.
But it's good to see Hungarian railways develope this nice.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 11:34 AM   #63
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There are 3 direct flights to Vienna a day,while 10 direct trains,I dont think trains can take more away.
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 11:45 AM   #64
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frankly the train should take away from the cars and buses also

and if the railjet actually averaged 140 kph (top 160 kph), there volume of traffic would also increase

actually the volume will increase anyway
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:17 PM   #65
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Hello everyone!

Does anyone know when the 8 (Greek) Desiros will be in passenger service and in which line?

Thank you!
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:29 PM   #66
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Hello everyone!

Does anyone know when the 8 (Greek) Desiros will be in passenger service and in which line?

Thank you!
They will enter service after repainting,but its not really known where.
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Old June 24th, 2009, 03:49 PM   #67
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as far as I know, it will be fall 09.

In August Railway Market - CEE Review will interview MAV Start CEO btw... : )
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 09:42 AM   #68
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 02:43 PM   #69
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Will you miss the old BKV metro cars?:

BKV to sell old metro trains

Budapest public transport company (BKV) is going to sell the old USSR made metro train sets, which are to be replaced with the new Alstom units.

BKV wants to sell 56 cars.

In 2003 BKV modernised 45 of the old cars, made in 1970s.

The first cars arrived to Budapest in January 2009. Since May they were tested.

They were assembled in Alstom's Polish plant in Chorzów.

The contract with Alstom was signed in 2006. 22 trains will operate on the line 2, and 37 on the line 4, currently under construction.
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 10:19 PM   #70
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No,we wont...
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Old July 23rd, 2009, 11:00 PM   #71
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we will have the pleasure of riding them on M3 for at least a decade
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Old July 27th, 2009, 03:26 PM   #72
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BKV reschedules 500 lines

Budapest's state-run public transport company, BKV Zrt, is to restructure the schedule of some 500 lines in two phases from Aug 21 and Sep 6.

This latter will include changes to the company’s so-called parameter-book – its commitment to provide public services – after a moratorium on changes the company gave unions during the strikes this spring comes to an end on Sep 1. BKV hopes that the changes will result in savings in excess of HUF 1bn (USD 6.32m) yearly, some way shy of its original goal to save HUF 6bn (USD 38m) annually, which triggered the strikes earlier this year. These savings will take effect only from next year, according to BKV spokesman Karola Kiricsi, because this year HUF 200m (USD 1.27m) was entirely spent on preparations for the switch, with an additional Ft100m used to inform passengers about the changes.

That included the printing of some 850,000 leaflets, sending letters to 260,000 Budapest homes and phoning 250,000 Budapesters (mainly pensioners) to inform them about the upcoming changes.
The company’s operational loss was HUF 14.3bn (USD 90.36m) last year, and is expected to be around HUF 11bn (USD70m) in 2008. The current debts of BKV exceed HUF 81bn (USD 511m).

According to the company, the changes implemented in phase I (on Aug 21) went without problems. And while the Urban and Suburban Transportation Alliance (VEKE) accused the BKV of being “dilettante” in implementing the changes and in informing passengers, no major issues were reported during the first day’s operation of the restructured schedule.

Changes focused on suburban public transportation this time. All HÉV (suburban rail) lines were changed, except for the Szentendre line, which currently does not operate normally, anyway, since it has to share its tracks with several railway lines on the Budapest-Esztergom route, due to roadworks.

The switch was supported by some 300 BKV employees and students, who provided help for passengers at major junctions and stops.

The schedules of a few important downtown lines were also reorganized. One of the most important changes is that the last vehicles of the three Metro lines (whose hours will be extended from Sep 6) will wait for each other at the Deák tér station. While the #4 tram line will stop operating at 10:30pm, #6 line (with almost identical path) will operate until 12:30am.

In the new scheme all lines will have unique numbers (there will not be a #6 tram and a #6 bus line), which makes the renumbering of several lines necessary. Lines with names (such as the Pólus Busz between Baross tér and Pólus Center shopping mall) will also have numbers.

Red express lines will have an additional E to mark them as such. Further details of the changes can be read at BKV’s website at www.bkv.hu
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Old July 27th, 2009, 05:27 PM   #73
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We have a thread for the public transport of Budapest,you know.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=553786

Besides,the numbering was changed last year.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 06:49 PM   #74
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Do they have HSR is Hungry
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Old July 27th, 2009, 07:05 PM   #75
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This is a great thread! I like Hungary and the Hungarian railways very much, however I never rode them myself...
But I was ever in Sárbogárd station, just to drop some family members on the train to Budapest and I made a hangulatos video over there...

Selfmade video:
(SubwayExplorer is my youtube nickname)

And here is a MÁV train ticket, got it from my grandparents (I'm a train ticket collector).

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Old July 27th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #76
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Do they have HSR is Hungry
The fastest we have is 160km/h in Hungary. But trains are capable of more.
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Old July 27th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #77
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The fastest we have is 160km/h in Hungary. But trains are capable of more.
yea the testing of rolling-stock happens at higher speeds, but the max. of that is 200kph i think
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can anyone tell if the VDSZSz strike threat is a real one?
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Old July 28th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #79
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can anyone tell if the VDSZSz strike threat is a real one?
Are you reading last year's news? There's no sign of a strike in the upcoming weeks.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 04:33 PM   #80
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Are you reading last year's news? There's no sign of a strike in the upcoming weeks.
well, there's always a vdszsz strike threat
they are constatnly threatening
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