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Old October 21st, 2011, 09:56 AM   #41
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Domino Sugar Factory - Brooklyn - New York City by Vivienne Gucwa, on Flickr
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Old October 21st, 2011, 10:00 AM   #42
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I hate the fact that all the new skyscraper, in Brooklyn have this look. I wish they had more style.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 08:22 PM   #43
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Post I made on this & the other new projects that will be redefining the WBurg skyline,

http://newyorkyimby.blogspot.com/201...rg-rising.html

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As of late 2011, there are three major projects slated to begin relatively soon along the Williamsburg waterfront. In order of size, they are the Domino Sugar Factory redevelopment (2200 units), the Rose Plaza development (800 units), and the third tower of Northside Piers (500 units). Encompassing a grand total of roughly 3,500 units, these new residential buildings will certainly inject a much-needed dose of energy and vitality into the Williamsburg waterfront.
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 01:43 AM   #44
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Williamsburg Group Proposes Arts Center, Gallery-Condo for New Domino



It's been awfully quiet at the Domino Sugar Factory lately, which can only mean one thing: time for the community groups to swoop back in! The current $2 billion project encompasses 2,200 new units designed by architect Rafael Vińoly, plus a Beyer Blinder Belle-designed addition to three landmarked buildings collectively referred to as "The Refinery," all of which has been greenlit by LPC and the city's planning commission. As Architectural Record reported in September, however, developers Community Preservation Corporation Resources (CPCR) and Katan Group are "in search of additional investors" before construction begins in 2012.

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Old November 3rd, 2011, 03:57 AM   #45
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well it looks okay good for Brooklyn. hopefully they find those "additional investors" fast so this thing can start rising.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #46
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Big Changes coming?

Domino Factory Site Up For Sale



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The Domino Sugar factory is for sale a little more than a year after the development team that controls the 11-acre site that the landmark building sits on won a hard fought battle in the City Council and the Department of City Planning to erect a series of mixed use towers on the large waterfront parcel.

According to several people with knowledge of the offering, the Community Preservation Corporation and partner, the Katan Group, have been shopping all or portions of the potentially $2 billion multi-building development to potential buyers.

The sales offer comes as little surprise to people familiar with the CPC, which specializes in building affordable housing. In 2010, the company came up with a plan to erect two towers up to 34-stories and two more that would be as high as 30-stories apiece, while preserving the site’s landmarked Domino Sugar factory, a derelict brick building famous for its large Domino logo and for the way its profile typifies Williamsburg’s industrial aesthetic.

The company’s vision included 2,200 residential units, 660 of which would be affordable.
Probably a total redesign with rental units instead of condos coming...
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:45 AM   #47
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YESSSSS Great news! The Domino Sugar Plant is an eyesore, but with a renovation it could become a beautiful icon! I'd love to see the whole Queens-Brooklyn waterfront get developed over time, I say 30 years and there will be very little that isn't filled with highrises in both boroughs along the east river.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 09:52 AM   #48
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Fantastic right, highrises from Jersey City trough Manhattan to Brooklyn.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 10:15 AM   #49
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Fantastic right, highrises from Jersey City trough Manhattan to Brooklyn.
Long Island City Queens is also getting built up extremely quickly! It's seeing arguably the fastest development in NYC for a neighborhood. Right now there are 2 skyscrapers being built in Jersey City, Midtown is bursting from the seems, downtown is as well, Brooklyn is on fire with development downtown, now Williamsburg is starting up too, Queens is going all over Long Island City, we are seeing a revolution for New York City! A new skyscraper boom, perhaps the beginning of something revolutionary for New York! It's impossible to walk 10 blocks in Manhattan (below 95th of course) and not see something being built, it's extraordinary. Not to mention Manhattanville is about to be dominated with new construction by Columbia, Washington Square Park area is going to get dominated by NYU, and Roosevelt Island is getting it's new high tech campus.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 10:40 AM   #50
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that would be a waste of the waterfront.
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that would be a waste of the waterfront.
Hunter's Point...? It's adjacent to LIC... while LIC has two u/c projects right now, there should be 2-3 more joining those before the year is out. Downtown Brooklyn's skyline is also getting 2-3 new buildings (each one taller than the previous tallest).

This is all as construction is barely lukewarm and we're just coming out of the recession... I don't want some kind of speculative boom like Dubai or Miami saw in the mid 2000s, but if construction resumes at its pre-crash pace (and it should, given pressure towards urbanization has become much more significant since/because of the Great Recession), the amount of space being built in NYC ~2015 is going to be ridiculous.
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Awesome project! With respect for history
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that would be a waste of the waterfront.
How? By that you imply that Long Island City is a waste of waterfront, when it is obvious, at least to me, that the development in Long Island City has DRASTICALLY improved the area. Just go to the opposite side of the Queensboro bridge and look at the collapsing, decrepit waterfront next to the housing projects. Developing the whole waterfront would only benefit the city. IN fact, I think a universally connected waterfront from Brooklyn to Queens would be amazing.

Plus there's enough waterfront in the Bronx for your NIMBY attitude. When you want undeveloped waterfront just go to Pelham Bay Park.
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Hunter's Point...? It's adjacent to LIC... while LIC has two u/c projects right now, there should be 2-3 more joining those before the year is out. Downtown Brooklyn's skyline is also getting 2-3 new buildings (each one taller than the previous tallest).

This is all as construction is barely lukewarm and we're just coming out of the recession... I don't want some kind of speculative boom like Dubai or Miami saw in the mid 2000s, but if construction resumes at its pre-crash pace (and it should, given pressure towards urbanization has become much more significant since/because of the Great Recession), the amount of space being built in NYC ~2015 is going to be ridiculous.
It isn't so speculative though, NYC is a city of 8 million with thousands, perhaps millions more who temporarily reside in the city. The fact is NYC actually NEEDS new buildings. Also remember the majority of buildings in the city are 50 years or older, so new buildings are part of the necessary cycle for the city. And mostly, NYC needs to catch up with lost development from the recession, which I'm sure it will do. What I long for is more office towers, especially downtown. Downtown is dominated by new condo buildings and extremely old office towers. Can we just zone all of Chinatown for office development? haha
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It isn't so speculative though, NYC is a city of 8 million with thousands, perhaps millions more who temporarily reside in the city. The fact is NYC actually NEEDS new buildings. Also remember the majority of buildings in the city are 50 years or older, so new buildings are part of the necessary cycle for the city. And mostly, NYC needs to catch up with lost development from the recession, which I'm sure it will do. What I long for is more office towers, especially downtown. Downtown is dominated by new condo buildings and extremely old office towers. Can we just zone all of Chinatown for office development? haha
Almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate predates 1970, and commercial space is usually replaced every 30-40 years, depending on the economy, so NY is overdue for a wave of new office buildings.

For residential, the city is growing incredibly fast for a city as dense as NY. It really snowballs. As more people move to NY, tax revenue increases, so schools get better, public safety gets better, the city can spend more on parks and general beautification projects. If the national economy continues to improve, the amount of development going on in NY in 2 years or so is going to be utterly embarrassing.

Anyways, I've always loved that old Domino building even in its current state of neglect. Should be interesting to see how this plays out.
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How? By that you imply that Long Island City is a waste of waterfront, when it is obvious, at least to me, that the development in Long Island City has DRASTICALLY improved the area. Just go to the opposite side of the Queensboro bridge and look at the collapsing, decrepit waterfront next to the housing projects. Developing the whole waterfront would only benefit the city. IN fact, I think a universally connected waterfront from Brooklyn to Queens would be amazing.

Plus there's enough waterfront in the Bronx for your NIMBY attitude. When you want undeveloped waterfront just go to Pelham Bay Park.
I'm taking about office towers on the waterfront
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Old March 14th, 2012, 09:37 AM   #57
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Great project. It's nice that they are incorporating the old factory building in the plan. It reminds me of the Distillery in Toronto.
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Bricken Ridge - Is that a Micro Class you have in your avatar? Sorry for offtopic, but I already made my point about this project.
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The Tragic Tale Of The Non-Profit That Lost Its Shirt At The Domino Plant


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In 2004, C.P.C. Resources bought an 11-acre parcel on the Brooklyn waterfront where a Domino sugar refinery once stood. The $1.4 billion project was supposed to convert the refinery into 2,200 apartments, a mix of luxury and subsidized units. But it repeatedly ran into delays before obtaining government approval in 2010. Last month, C.P.C. Resources defaulted on its $125 million New Domino loan.

Community Preservation also provided a $23 million loan for a luxury condo project called Metroplex on the waterfront in Rockaway, Queens. The 126 apartments had balconies with ocean views, oak floors, Jacuzzis and a gym, but when the project opened, not a single one sold.

Some of the projects had government subsidies that made them affordable to families earning $90,000 to $140,000 a year. But while there is a constant demand for affordable rental housing in the New York region, the market for even subsidized condos, which can take three years to develop, died with the recession.

Late last year, with more than $150 million in loans in default and Community Preservation in crisis, its board and the commercial banks that support it forced Mr. Lappin, 68, into retirement. Nearly two-thirds of the condo loans were delinquent, according to the nonprofit group’s records. Community Preservation also closed offices in New Jersey and Connecticut, cut salaries for senior executives by 45 percent and dismissed 40 percent of its staff.
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Drama!

Someone even made a new documentary about this whole mishegoss:



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The documentary "The Domino Effect" may be the greatest beneficiary of the problems that Williamsburg's "New Domino" redevelopment project have encountered, including the near collapse of the Community Preservation Corp. The feature length documentary's creators write that the film "digs deep to uncover the complex networks of banks, developers, politicians, and non-profit organization that shape our cities." Regular readers of Curbed NY know that one doesn't have to dig very deep to uncover this information. Politicians, developers, and banks tend to be fairly unapologetic and public about development plans. "The Domino Effect" holds that projects like "New Domino" are responsible for the loss of industrial jobs and the displacement of communities. Now that the site developer, Community Preservation Corp., defaulted on a $120 million loan this month, the filmmakers may have a new surprise ending as they are finishing up their film.
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