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Old March 6th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #101
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Should be something like that:

Somewhat better, but I'm not impressed by this design anyway.
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Old March 7th, 2013, 09:28 PM   #102
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A stop motion tour of the old Domino Sugar Plant ... by a Domino Sugar Container :-)
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Old March 9th, 2013, 09:31 AM   #103
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The first design was much better, because in here they found a balance between the old factory and the new towers. Now there are just some stand alone towers which all scream for attention.
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Old March 10th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #104
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The design is interesting, better than the first jumbled pile of uninspired meaningless hogwash.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 01:59 AM   #105
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Both designs seem to completely ignore the plant itself... which is a shame.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 02:24 AM   #106
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That is an industrial facility without any future as such. I'd even demolish the whole thing altogether. Industrial plants that are disused are just architectural garbage that deserves the wrecking ball. Then, they could rebuild something completely new and modern, with futuristic looks.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 02:50 AM   #107
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I believe that in the end, cities gain personality and a certain patina by relishing it's past
through buildings like Domino's. Personality goes a long way

Tate Modern in Londen was architectural garbage once...
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Old March 13th, 2013, 02:59 AM   #108
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I'm personally excited to see the big O shaped one be built.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #109
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That is an industrial facility without any future as such. I'd even demolish the whole thing altogether. Industrial plants that are disused are just architectural garbage that deserves the wrecking ball. Then, they could rebuild something completely new and modern, with futuristic looks.
What a piece of bull**it.

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Old March 14th, 2013, 07:13 AM   #110
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Those are gorgeous. Did they use to be run-down like this one?
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Old March 16th, 2013, 06:40 AM   #111
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We knew this wasn't going to go well...

Walentas To Neighborhood Activists: "Don't Like The New Domino Plan? We'll Go Back To The Old One!"


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Domino Sugar factory owner Jed Walentas has a backup plan if neighbors don’t like his lofty new vision for the massive waterfront property: go back to the site’s much-maligned previous development blueprint.

Walentas, whose company Two Trees Management Co. bought the shuttered sugar refinery last year, told neighbors he hopes to get the greenlight for his proposal to build skyscraping edifices with eye-catching cutouts in the middle, but if that falls through he will revive the city-approved plan by the past owner Community Preservation Corporation Resources, which call for shorter more monolithic towers.

“We spent $185 million to purchase this site, and we’re going to get a return on our investment,” Walentas said on Thursday in his first meeting with Williamsburgers to discuss the future of Domino.

Neighbors, including many activists who battled the previous Domino development plan, greeted the Two Trees proposal with snark, derision, and anger, criticizing the project for its potential impact on transit, its light-blocking scale, and what they described as Walentas’s “my way or the highway” attitude.

“Maybe you think we are dumb, but we are not DUMBO,” community stalwart Isaac Abraham shouted at the builder, referring to the neighborhood that Walentas and his father David meticulously developed over the past two decades.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #112
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Those are gorgeous. Did they use to be run-down like this one?
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:15 PM   #113
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Good example Dexter, looks very nice

But if i understand correctly, this Jed Walentas gives a rats ass about how the area will turn out, as long as he profits from his investment? Doesn't sound like promising motivation, urban development wise...
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #114
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I don't get why the neighbours want this proposal instead of the other, what's the problem with it?
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:55 PM   #115
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As a life long resident of Williamsburg, I can tell you, most buildings in the area are 3 to 4 floors high, with a few scattered about topping out at 22 floors. These proposed towers are 48 to 60 floors. They are way too tall.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #116
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The rezoning in that area is years old, this site will have development too. That's just how it is.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:03 PM   #117
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Perhaps, but that doesn't make it more acceptable for the neighbours.

@Dexter2: That's a great (textbook) example of a renovation of an industrial estate.
I'm glad that industrial heritage is being preserved, because the buildings are just magnificent.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 03:53 PM   #118
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Thanks Not everything is perfect, but I'm still glad that those buildings are preserved. Łódź is famous from industrial heritage (just like Manchester), so It's very important for us to save It.
One more project from Łódź, this one is ongoing: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...95&postcount=2


Near Łódź there is smaller industrial town, Żyrardów, where old factories were also adapted. Results are magnificent:







People just don't realize how much beauty is usually enchanted in neglected industrial areas. And It's our job to teach officials and investors about it.
Ignoring usually means demolishing - which is especially bad for cities that were born and raised due to those factories.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:42 AM   #119
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Neighbors Allied for Good Growth, opponents of the previous plan for Brooklyn's Domino site, appear to like the most recent version of the plans much better.

Not a full endorsement but they seem eager to move forward with community engagement with the Two Trees plan.


http://www.nag-brooklyn.org/2013/04/...g-board-staff/


http://www.nag-brooklyn.org/2013/04/...g-board-staff/


http://www.nag-brooklyn.org/2013/04/...g-board-staff/
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Old April 24th, 2013, 03:02 PM   #120
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The lowrise behind the towers looks also interesting.
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