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Old February 9th, 2008, 01:58 PM   #1
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Old February 9th, 2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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WOW! Incredible.
These are the largest commie blocks I've ever seen. The architecture is better then in the old ones, but this size is terrible... and I don't like the planning of the ground. There should be some gardens, playgrounds, and a lot of more parking spaces. In future every Russian household will have a car (or even several)

I prefer the classical style, instead of one huge block, better to build 20 small buildings standing dense together, mixed use, build closed with backyards, with cars parking along the small streets between the buildings.
With 20 small mixed use buildings planned this was you have a small alive city. People know each other from neighborhood, meet on the streets...
A huge block is just... storage of people. The people don't know each other. I will never understand why they are still build in Russia.

I hope you don't get excited over my post, I really don't want to affront someone, I just want to understand
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Old February 9th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #3
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Они все уже построены или только строятся? Отметь статус где-нибудь.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 10:02 PM   #4
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I prefer the classical style, instead of one huge block, better to build 20 small buildings standing dense together, mixed use, build closed with backyards, with cars parking along the small streets between the buildings.
With 20 small mixed use buildings planned this was you have a small alive city. People know each other from neighborhood, meet on the streets...
A huge block is just... storage of people. The people don't know each other. I will never understand why they are still build in Russia.
People do know each other in commieblocks. Of course they do. This form of community dates back to Soviet times, from when mass amounts of peasents came from the countryside & villages, to settle into mass-constructed urban housing. No-one had any complaints against it, either then, or now AFAIK.

Frankly, seperated housing as in London, where no-one knows each other at all, is a very new and alien development in Russian culture and city development. Good thing it's not gaining any ground.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #5
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Frankly, seperated housing as in London, where no-one knows each other at all, is a very new and alien development in Russian culture and city development. Good thing it's not gaining any ground.
What do you mean? A flat in a block is not the same. There is nothing like your own house on your own ground and soil. I didn't even mean family houses, I meant lower buildings, maybe 3 levels, but more single buildings with streets between them. It is much better life quality. Might be that you Russians used to live in blocks for 60 years now and its normal for you, but I still don't understand why the ground isn't planned more carefully. What's the point of building a block and then leaving a green surface 100x400m in front of it? The only reason I can imagine to build in block towers is to save space. It doesn't save space if the grass around takes 10 times the surface of the building.

You could build lower buildings with streets between them and you would have the same density.
Lower buildings have also the plus point that every flat is flooded with good sunlight.
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Они все уже построены или только строятся? Отметь статус где-нибудь.

Все здания которые я прислал в первом сообщении строятся. За исключением здания на Октябрьской набережной, которое уже построено:



Скоро пришлю фотографии уже построенных 25-этажек, и кадры с места строительства.
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I like this one. Its really unique. It has something of an arch.



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По моим сведениям в Питере сейчас строится более 60 жилых комплексов этажностью 25 эт. и выше и около 20-30 жилых домов уже построено...В ближайшие дни скину все их адреса и ссылки!!!
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Old February 16th, 2008, 05:52 PM   #11
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Хорошая "живая " галерея фоток.

"Адмирал" по последним рендерам в газетах снизил этажность до 12-14.
Да и вообще-чисто 25-тиэтажек у нас мало. Все больше 24-23 этаже.
В принципе, технические этажи по нормам не участвуют в подстчетах....
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Old February 16th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #12
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Приветствую всех участников форума! Давненько читаю этот форум, вот решил присоединиться... А это, так сказать, первый взнос - Дом на Октябрьской набережной:


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mike_blum, Здорово коли не шутишь. Я тоже сюда недавно присоединился

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Old February 17th, 2008, 05:38 AM   #14
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"Адмирал" по последним рендерам в газетах снизил этажность до 12-14.
...
Спасибо обрадовал. Я уже видел на выставке его урезанный макет. Но там были урезаны только несколько секций, а не все здание.
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Жаль что Коммендантский не получился как на рендеры.

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What do you mean? A flat in a block is not the same. There is nothing like your own house on your own ground and soil. I didn't even mean family houses, I meant lower buildings, maybe 3 levels, but more single buildings with streets between them. It is much better life quality. Might be that you Russians used to live in blocks for 60 years now and its normal for you, but I still don't understand why the ground isn't planned more carefully. What's the point of building a block and then leaving a green surface 100x400m in front of it? The only reason I can imagine to build in block towers is to save space. It doesn't save space if the grass around takes 10 times the surface of the building.

You could build lower buildings with streets between them and you would have the same density.
Lower buildings have also the plus point that every flat is flooded with good sunlight.
Hardly. Life quality depends on the actual income of the family, and their housing reflects this. You can have low-quality cheap construction for either the lower buildings, single houses, or huge commieblocks. Likewise you can have high quality housing no matter how many people share the same building. Many of these constructions you see here, are exactly high-quality housing constructed for Russia's upper-middle class, and there seems to be the demand for it, else these construction companies would have long ago switched to other type's of construction.

Not to say smaller buildings, etc... aren't popular. But they are mostly to be found outside of cities, as the secondary properties of land-owners; dachas, cottages, country homes, etc... For large metropolises, high-rise residential properties are simply more practical.

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Old February 17th, 2008, 12:00 PM   #16
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Жаль что Коммендантский не получился как на рендеры..
Нет Коммендантский получился точно как на рендерах. Дело в том что это только первое здание из 2 запланированных. А второе пока еще не построено, оно будет немного отличаться от первого.
Кстати может у кого есть снимки строительства этого здания. Что то очень медленно его строят.
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слушайте, а может кто (в двух словах) разъяснит, что хотят иноязычные товарищи и что им тут втолковывают??
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Приветствую всех участников форума! Давненько читаю этот форум, вот решил присоединиться...
Да, добро пожаловать.

А ведь мы тоже , кажись, давно знакомы. Через известный сайт "проекты Петербурга", который держит ziv.... мы даже по аське начали контакт, но...в тот день админ мне прикрыл аську
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Вот конкретная 25-тиэтажка на Камышовой ул. СПЧ кв. 52. Чистой воды уплотниловка.


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