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Old February 10th, 2008, 03:56 AM   #101
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Boston: All trains, subways, trolleys*, trolleybuses and buses have A/C and heat.

Stations have fans in the summer, no heat, although underground is always warmer than above.

*The historic Mattapan line which has cars from the 1940s doesnt, but it's very short.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 04:12 AM   #102
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"The MK II trains in Vancouver have them, not the MK I trains or the stations themselves. Honestly, our "heatwave" is nothing compared to the rest of the world."

<<< I heard passengers will often open the windows on Skytrain vehicles, rendering the air conditioning useless. I don't know if that's true, but I wouldn't be surprised since I see bus windows opened during the summer.

"I think our stations need more heat though... it's cold in the winter (but not as cold as the rest of the nation)."

<<< You need heat there? You baby! If people manage to get to the station without heat, I think they can manage to stand in the cold for a few more minutes. Besides, to heat outdoor stations, you'd probably have to blast people with a series of overhead gas heaters. A bit of a waste in my opinion.
Yeah passengers do open the windows. And on all MK I trains is open in the summer time. But for MK II, it's Air Conditioned and they often open the windows still. TransLink has now place stickers on the windows: "Air Conditioned Car - Open in emergency only".

But yes Vancouver does have relatively warm summers complared to many other cities.

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Old February 10th, 2008, 05:35 AM   #103
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Here in Philadelphia, the Market Frankford line ran Budd M3 cars from 1960s-1999 that had no air conditioning. It is the busiest of the two Septa run subway lines.

The things on top are not air conditioners, they just circulate heat from inside the train:

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?52190

Old train with no air conditioning (left) next to a currently used train with air conditioning (right):

http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?69161
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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #104
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Here in Aus, we do not have a metro but half of our heavy rail carriages are air conditioned. Unfortunately, most do not work very well and in some areas are not turned on.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:35 AM   #105
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HK? definitely At least some of them don't run "full-blast"
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Old February 11th, 2008, 10:32 AM   #106
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Singapore: All trains air conditioned, all underground stations air conditioned

Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia): All trains air conditioned, all underground stations air conditioned

Delhi (India): All metro trains air conditioned
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Old February 11th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #107
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Guangzhou and Shenzhen metros' trains and underground stations have A/C.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #108
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Copenhagen Regional trains, S-Trains, Metro and Buses do all have AC

But in some of the old buses can still get very hot in the summer when crowded
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Old February 11th, 2008, 04:18 PM   #109
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BART seems to have air conditioning on all the time. It gets rather chilly inside on those cold days. Muni doesnt have air conditioning so it sucks in the summer but it has heaters which drivers tend to have on full blast making it unpleasant. The Muni Metro however has air conditioning and like BART leaves it on full blast.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 05:01 PM   #110
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All the Chicago subway/El trains, commuter trains and buses are all fully air conditioned as well as heated.

Maybe once a year during the summer the AC will go out on a train car when I'm going home - it's BRUTAL.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:06 PM   #111
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Yes (Bilbao metro).
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Old February 27th, 2008, 08:08 PM   #112
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metro in warsaw doesn't have A/C but the temperature is stable all the year (from about 10 C in the winter to 20 C in the summer).
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:06 AM   #113
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Here in Aus, we do not have a metro but half of our heavy rail carriages are air conditioned. Unfortunately, most do not work very well and in some areas are not turned on.
That may be true in Sydney, all of Perths rail carriages are air conditioned and they work ...

sometimes, you just want to ride the trains on 40c+ days
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:15 AM   #114
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In Taipei Metro all trains and all underground stations have A/C
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:34 AM   #115
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Every metro I have been on has a/c except Paris metro. Shanghai has a/c in the trains and the stations, nyc has them in all their commuter trains and subways but not in the stations. In the summer, stations can be a real oven, but once the train comes (assuming you can successfully cram your way onboard) you get nice cold a/c. Washington metro has a/c in both the stations and the trains. Can't remember if Chicago had them though, metra definitely did.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #116
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Shanghai Metro does not have heater. In winter it is icy. The elevated Line 3 has über-A/C to counter the roasting summer sun, but when it is not sunny, it turns the cars into fridge.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #117
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Every metro I have been on has a/c except Paris metro. Shanghai has a/c in the trains and the stations, nyc has them in all their commuter trains and subways but not in the stations. In the summer, stations can be a real oven, but once the train comes (assuming you can successfully cram your way onboard) you get nice cold a/c. Washington metro has a/c in both the stations and the trains. Can't remember if Chicago had them though, metra definitely did.
London's don't but when trains approach the station you get a blast of slightly cooler air. I've heard that they are installing a/c on some future trains. It can get up to 50C on the tube in summer.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 07:49 PM   #118
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I think A/C has been scrapped because of the collapse of Metrodebt.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #119
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I think A/C has been scrapped because of the collapse of Metrodebt.
Nope. I think we're still getting the new trains on the sub surface lines. All these will have A/C.

The deep level 'tube' lines can't have A/C because supposedly there's nowhere for the air to dissipate (except maybe on the JLE). Not that they've tested this of course. They just say its so. You would have thought the piston effect would help move air out of the network (you get train breezes at some station entrances the effect is clearly very apparent)

There have been trials running underground river water through Victoria station - and this has supposedly cooled down the Victoria line platforms.... but I'm sure what most people care about is the heat and humidity on the trains itself and not the platforms.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 12:37 AM   #120
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Sorry, I wasn't specific enough, I meant on the deep level lines. There were all sorts of "alternative" ideas to cool down those lines which I remember actually going ahead (it was in the paper) one was to use fridges under the seats that would cool the train down when overground. I don't see how it would work though. It was scrapped a few months ago, I also remember reading that in the paper...
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