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Old February 10th, 2008, 03:40 AM   #1
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MISC | Metro/Subway Tokens

Some metro systems use metal or plastic coins as tickets. They are re-usable and durable and make excellent collectibles. When travelling, I always throw away the paper tickets but I have collected tokens from a couple of metro cities over the years.

But tokens seem to become out of fashion and get replaced by credit-card-sized tickets, e.g. touchless ones that can be endlessly reloaded with money. New York is one of the cities that has replaced the tokens.

Shenzhen in China has the token of the future maybe. Actually similar to those magnetic credit-card-sized ticket, but in the form of a re-usable plastic coin. It has an RFID chip built in, so it knows how much you've paid and how far you can go. You touch the gate when you enter the station and dump it in a slot when you leave.


My collection: Boston, Kiev, Miami, Moscow,
Philadelphia, Shenzhen, Saint Petersburg.

Did you guys also collect some tokens?

Are tokens still in use in your city?

Which cities have replaced their tokens?

Which is more practical in use: the credit-card-sized tickets or the green Shenzhen RFID coin?

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Old February 10th, 2008, 06:03 AM   #2
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I remember Guangzhou uses those tokens that Shenzhen has as well.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #3
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interesting that they are using the mtr character logo as well.

Bangkok Metro also has the "chipcoin" plastic RFID token, and to my mind, it is better than the plastic cards...

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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #4
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We haven't used tokens in a love time. I think Boston just moved away from tokens as well.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:18 PM   #5
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Both Bangkok and Guangzhou metros (not Bangkok BTS) has those electronic plastic coins as well. Quite a nice solution.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #6
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interesting that they are using the mtr character logo as well.
No, they are different: Hongkong MTR: , Shenzhen:

Would be interesting to know why they are so similar, though.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 10:01 PM   #7
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Tokens are not used in Copenhagen - it used the same ticket system as everything else public...

Oh and nope I don't collect
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Old February 12th, 2008, 02:11 AM   #8
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I have some old NYCMTA tokes that I remember using, I like them sometimes and I can't stand them at other times. Tokens have that lovely vintage feel though.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 09:12 AM   #9
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No, they are different: Hongkong MTR: , Shenzhen:

Would be interesting to know why they are so similar, though.
Hong Kong's MTR took part in Shenzhen's subway construction and design.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 09:37 AM   #10
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Do the symbols in the logos have a meaning in Chinese? Are they characters?
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Do the symbols in the logos have a meaning in Chinese? Are they characters?
If I don't recall wrong, MTR's logo represented the rapid transit link between Hong Kong Island and Kowloon. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Do the symbols in the logos have a meaning in Chinese? Are they characters?
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If I don't recall wrong, MTR's logo represented the rapid transit link between Hong Kong Island and Kowloon. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
micro's guessing's right, HK MTR's Logo really comes from a Chinese Character for "wood" (木). This logo symbolized MTR's growth like trees to be strong and firm. The logo that micro posted is the second generation logo. The first generation logo is only the red "wood" character.

For SZ Metro's logo, it has a meaning for the cooperation between SZ and HK, as both cities are just next to each other.
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micro's guessing's right, HK MTR's Logo really comes from a Chinese Character for "wood" (木).
This is great! Now that you've mentioned it it becomes pretty obvious!

Tree is this character I guess?
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To get back to the topic, it's interesting that Bangkok and Guangzhou are using those RFID plastic coins as well. Maybe those electronic tokens are getting fashionable. Would be nice, I like them.

Anyone feel free to post pictures of tokens around the world. Are the non-electronic tokens going to disappear everywhere?
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micro's guessing's right, HK MTR's Logo really comes from a Chinese Character for "wood" (木). This logo symbolized MTR's growth like trees to be strong and firm. The logo that micro posted is the second generation logo. The first generation logo is only the red "wood" character.

For SZ Metro's logo, it has a meaning for the cooperation between SZ and HK, as both cities are just next to each other.
Really, I was told otherwise... Intereseting stuff... =)
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Interesting if true. I thought the MTR logo was simply to show a link between HK and Kowloon.

I also thought the Shenzhen design was simply a copy of the MTR logo and they just added another line because they had no original ideas for a logo.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 07:10 AM   #17
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Delhi in India also has tokens. These are used for single trip journeys and are pretty much like the Shenzhen ones where you purchase them to your destination, scan them on the reader and when you exit drop it into the slot. For multiple trip journeys they use the stored value card which is usually used by locals who live there as this eliminates the need to repurchase tickets/tokens everytime they use the Metro. I assume that the tokens have been in use since the Metro's operation in 2002.



Sorry the token is kinda upside down.
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Interesting if true. I thought the MTR logo was simply to show a link between HK and Kowloon.

I also thought the Shenzhen design was simply a copy of the MTR logo and they just added another line because they had no original ideas for a logo.
Hmmm... looks like it's not my immagination LOL. I'm going to look into this after exams as I am very curious now. I'm not questioning any of you btw.
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Old February 15th, 2008, 10:19 AM   #19
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Hmmm... looks like it's not my immagination LOL. I'm going to look into this after exams as I am very curious now. I'm not questioning any of you btw.
I remember from school the logo indicated the connection across Hong Kong Island and Kowloon (the 2 U's) plus the cross-harbour route (the straight line).
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micro's guessing's right, HK MTR's Logo really comes from a Chinese Character for "wood" (木). This logo symbolized MTR's growth like trees to be strong and firm. The logo that micro posted is the second generation logo. The first generation logo is only the red "wood" character.

For SZ Metro's logo, it has a meaning for the cooperation between SZ and HK, as both cities are just next to each other.
The logo did not come from a Chinese Character. Rather, it represents how the routes were aligned.

People are pretty much right about the straight line - it represents the part of the system from Prince Edward to Admiralty. The upper left part of the logo is Tsuen Wan to Sham Shui Po, upper right is Kwun Tong to Shek Kip Mei. The bottom part is the Island Line.
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