#SWP: Victoria Square Redevelopment (Stage One)

Roar/ · May 2nd, 2006, 09:53 AM

Victoria SQ will look so much better once the lighting on the hilton changes color, which should happen soon. It will also look fantastic with the tram extension, City Central complex, Spire, and the SA water house building

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Giorgio · May 2nd, 2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UrbanSG

PS It is amazing standing in Victoria Square now with the finished Law Courts and City Central. Getting a real densed in feel to it

When SA Water goes up and more of the City Central block is completed Victoria Square will be one of the best vantage points in the city. It just needs to be upgraded. I wish they had gone through with the upgrade suggested a few years back. That would be amazing coupled with all of the new buildings going up.

Actually, I dont see whats so bad.
I was walking through It recently and I thought it was definetly up to par with most cities world wide, even better.

An upgrade is welcome though as it will further enhance it.

SkY_BoY16 · May 2nd, 2006, 10:28 AM

hi im new new

Great Photos Urban SG

I agree giorgos its definetly up to par with most cities world wide - but it needs a upgrade

Giorgio · May 2nd, 2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SkY_BoY16

hi im new new

Great Photos Urban SG

I agree giorgos its definetly up to par with most cities world wide - but it needs a upgrade

Can you expand on that? What needs upgrading.
I think it would be interesting to hear since I personally cant find many flaws that would require any urgent upgrades.

As far as I saw, the paving was up to scratch and the fountain and grasses were well maintained.

Roar/ · May 2nd, 2006, 10:33 AM

Hey Sky Boy, welcome to SSC forums.

aussie2000 · May 2nd, 2006, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crawf_231

great pics urban sg

and i agree Victoria Square will be one of the best vantage points in the city

btw the council has got plans to upgrade vic square

Really?, what does the upgrade involve? and Laz Vagas, what do you mean about the hilton lights? (sorry i am catching up slowly)

Roar/ · May 2nd, 2006, 01:41 PM

Oh, well I'm friends with the general manager of the hilton, and he is going to change the color of the lights so at night the hilton will apear different and not yellow, but I didn't have time to ask him when and color but I will ask when I see him next

aussie2000 · May 2nd, 2006, 01:47 PM

cool

***crawf*** · May 2nd, 2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie2000

Really?, what does the upgrade involve? and Laz Vagas, what do you mean about the hilton lights? (sorry i am catching up slowly)

No idea man!!

thats great news Laz Vegas, George the current Tram Station area is disgraceful and needs a revamp, tho the rest of the square is fantastic

aceman · May 3rd, 2006, 05:02 AM

Build a tunnel under vic square to join grote and wakefield streets and then return the current road into a park and make it a proper looking square such as hyde park in sydney with large morton bay fig trees and some good street art. Bear in mind that the tram extension will go around the square when it is completed!!! Just my opinion!!

Rev · May 3rd, 2006, 06:22 AM

Wasnt the tunnel idea proposed, but shot down last year?

Giorgio · May 3rd, 2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rev

Wasnt the tunnel idea proposed, but shot down last year?

Well, Its exteremly likely.

mameenoodles · May 3rd, 2006, 09:51 AM

Tunnels and underpasses are just bad ideas, but so is the 'cut through road'.... Any chance of it becoming a 'roundabout' with traffic lights installed? Whihc is what they should do at Britannia.

JAKJ · May 3rd, 2006, 11:59 AM

There is nothing wrong with britannia!! (except a resurfacing that is desperately needed) Adelaide drivers should just learn how to drive, I think we have the easiest to follow street network in the world, so one roundabout with more then 4 entrances/exits and everybody freaks out!!

***crawf*** · May 3rd, 2006, 12:05 PM

I disagree - that roundabout is deadly!!!!

Giorgio · May 3rd, 2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mameenoodles

Tunnels and underpasses are just bad ideas,

Explain yourself...

mameenoodles · May 3rd, 2006, 02:06 PM

We dont exactly have the money to fund such a project, it would probably require demolition of the SGIC and Hilton Hotel buildings, not to mention the St Xaviers Cathedral and the other building on the eastside, plus all the other smaller buildings behind it... the road simply isnt wide enough to accomodate for a 2 lane tunnel each way plus suffiecient turning lanes.

Giorgio · May 3rd, 2006, 02:08 PM

The tunnel can start 2m in from the curb of each intersection which eliminates the need for turning lanes.

mameenoodles · May 3rd, 2006, 02:11 PM

turning lanes are essential, especially to the city's peak hour traffic flow.
i apologise, but i made a mistake. all roads in the sqaure are 4 lanes. So according to what I can see on google earth, a two lane tunnel (each way) plus 2 turning lanes on each side, is enough room.

Rev · May 3rd, 2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mameenoodles

We dont exactly have the money to fund such a project, it would probably require demolition of the SGIC and Hilton Hotel buildings, not to mention the St Xaviers Cathedral and the other building on the eastside, plus all the other smaller buildings behind it... the road simply isnt wide enough to accomodate for a 2 lane tunnel each way plus suffiecient turning lanes.

There has already been a proposal for a tunnel.
If it couldnt be done, without demolishing the building you stated, then it wouldnt have been proposed because it would be a waste of time.

May 2nd, 2006, 09:53 AM	#1
Roar/ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 540 Likes (Received): 0	#SWP: Victoria Square Redevelopment (Stage One) Victoria SQ will look so much better once the lighting on the hilton changes color, which should happen soon. It will also look fantastic with the tram extension, City Central complex, Spire, and the SA water house building.

May 3rd, 2006, 05:02 AM	#10
aceman real name - Brian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Adelaide (Golden Grove) Posts: 186 Likes (Received): 0	Build a tunnel under vic square to join grote and wakefield streets and then return the current road into a park and make it a proper looking square such as hyde park in sydney with large morton bay fig trees and some good street art. Bear in mind that the tram extension will go around the square when it is completed!!! Just my opinion!! __________________ SA - About to BOOM!!

May 3rd, 2006, 12:05 PM	#15
*crawf* © Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Adelaide Posts: 5,126 Likes (Received): 19	I disagree - that roundabout is deadly!!!! __________________ The Australia Guide

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Giorgio nsa fun Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne/Adelaide Posts: 10,608 Likes (Received): 36	The tunnel can start 2m in from the curb of each intersection which eliminates the need for turning lanes. __________________ Impeccable Greece - you'll be amazed

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SkY_BoY16 BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Shanghai Posts: 8 Likes (Received): 0	hi im new new Great Photos Urban SG I agree giorgos its definetly up to par with most cities world wide - but it needs a upgrade

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Roar/ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 540 Likes (Received): 0	Hey Sky Boy, welcome to SSC forums.

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Roar/ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 540 Likes (Received): 0	Oh, well I'm friends with the general manager of the hilton, and he is going to change the color of the lights so at night the hilton will apear different and not yellow, but I didn't have time to ask him when and color but I will ask when I see him next

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Rev BANNED Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adelaide Posts: 1,050 Likes (Received): 0	Wasnt the tunnel idea proposed, but shot down last year?

May 3rd, 2006, 09:51 AM	#13
mameenoodles BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: adelaide Posts: 44 Likes (Received): 0	Tunnels and underpasses are just bad ideas, but so is the 'cut through road'.... Any chance of it becoming a 'roundabout' with traffic lights installed? Whihc is what they should do at Britannia.

May 3rd, 2006, 11:59 AM	#14
JAKJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Perth ex CNS/LA/SH/ADL Posts: 433 Likes (Received): 1	There is nothing wrong with britannia!! (except a resurfacing that is desperately needed) Adelaide drivers should just learn how to drive, I think we have the easiest to follow street network in the world, so one roundabout with more then 4 entrances/exits and everybody freaks out!!

May 3rd, 2006, 02:06 PM	#17
mameenoodles BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: adelaide Posts: 44 Likes (Received): 0	We dont exactly have the money to fund such a project, it would probably require demolition of the SGIC and Hilton Hotel buildings, not to mention the St Xaviers Cathedral and the other building on the eastside, plus all the other smaller buildings behind it... the road simply isnt wide enough to accomodate for a 2 lane tunnel each way plus suffiecient turning lanes.

May 3rd, 2006, 02:11 PM	#19
mameenoodles BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: adelaide Posts: 44 Likes (Received): 0	turning lanes are essential, especially to the city's peak hour traffic flow. i apologise, but i made a mistake. all roads in the sqaure are 4 lanes. So according to what I can see on google earth, a two lane tunnel (each way) plus 2 turning lanes on each side, is enough room.