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Old July 18th, 2017, 11:36 PM   #361
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(What I meant was, what were you doing there.)
Some people here seem to be unclear on what "drive" means....
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Old July 18th, 2017, 11:56 PM   #362
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I've driven or been driven pretty much everywhere I've been, you rarely walk long distances. I didn't drive only in the Vatican City. I can even say I've been driven in a few transit countries, but only by plane (yes, even planes have to drive for a while before they can fly (or after they land)).
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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:01 AM   #363
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I don't think most native speakers of English would understand "Where have you driven?" to include "Where have you been a passenger on a bus?"

My list - if I include places I've flown to, or where I've traveled by train, or for that matter been in a car driven by someone else, especially when I was a child - would include several additional countries (and American states and Canadian provinces). Although not Slovenia. :-)
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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:06 AM   #364
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No, I've already said that elsewhere.
Just so that I could say I've driven there. That's the topic here.
It's an expression, sort of, because it's some place most people don't go.
Like when someone asked Edmund Hillary why he climbed Mount Everest and he answered "Because it's there."

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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:37 AM   #365
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I don't think most native speakers of English would understand "Where have you driven?" to include "Where have you been a passenger on a bus?"
I know, but if you look at the first page of the thread, we showed everything done on roads (so driven and been driven, but excluding trains, ships and planes (not sure about runways )).
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Old July 19th, 2017, 02:02 AM   #366
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True...

Do you know the expression "mission creep"? Maybe SSC threads are prone to "thread creep."
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Old July 19th, 2017, 03:00 AM   #367
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Just had my first experience with driving in Paris and it was awesome. I have had my drivers licence for about two years and I have driven in larger cities like Amsterdam and Berlin before but those cities are rather regulated. Paris was something completely different.
It felt like everybody wanted to break the land speed record at the same time and it was so much fun to join them. Until we hit the next traffic licht or jam. The French don't seem to mind a square or "esplanade" with little or no signing, what can result in three cars heading for the same lane next to each other. Motorcycles and scooters were going everywhere coupled by police cars ploughing trough traffic jams and the drivers are surprisingly patient.
While i was trying to find the way to go and not scratch the car, zigzagging across the city, almost every mile was coupled by a special situation as in your driving exam and most drivers just do as they like. I understand most people would prefer an empty, wining country road every time but for me this was the most challenging drive and the most fun I ever had behind the wheel. It is a chaotic mess, but for some reason it works.
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Old July 19th, 2017, 04:31 AM   #368
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The first time I drove in Europe was the summer of 2015. I wanted to rent a car in Amsterdam and drop it off in Paris. I went through a booking service called autoeurope.com, or something like that, which is based in the U.S. and gathers prices from multiple companies like Trivago or Expedia do with hotels and flights....

I got two offers for rentals, from different companies, at comparable prices. One required dropping off at the Gare Saint-Lazare (which was literally across the street from the hotel I'd booked...at least the station itself was; the EuropCar drop-off point was behind the station somewhere); the other about a block inside the Périphérique near Porte Maillot. Even though the Porte Maillot drop-off was a distance from my hotel and the other was so close, that's the one I chose...I could see myself getting stressed out around Saint-Lazare if I had a drop-off deadline and there was heavy traffic and I missed the rental place so had to go around again...; figured I'd rather go for the easy drop-off and take a cab.

In the event it was the Saturday afternoon before Bastille Day when I got to Paris and traffic was very light....

But I can legitimately say I've driven in Paris, and not just on the Périphérique.

P.S.: Renting in Amsterdam and dropping off in Paris was not a good idea; the international drop-off charge was probably more than the cost of eight days' rental. I flew into Frankfurt, took a train to Amsterdam (I knew I didn't want my first European driving experience to be Frankfurt to Amsterdam on Autobahnen while jet-lagged); then another train from Paris back to Frankfurt at the end of the trip. The following year, I rented and dropped off in Offenbach. It was much cheaper. Jet lag wasn't an issue, though, since I had friends in Offenbach with whom I stayed the first two nights.
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Old July 19th, 2017, 08:52 AM   #369
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(What I meant was, what were you doing there.)
Some people here seem to be unclear on what "drive" means....
I drove a snowmobile for more than 140 km. It's more than how long I drove in Luxembourg, for example.

I posted some pictures on the Norway thread, should you be interested.

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