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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #21261
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Yes, we have more motorways despite being much smaller (we also have a lot of debt though ).
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Old July 24th, 2013, 09:38 PM   #21262
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It's amazing how annoying questioners can be. The more I'm telling the guy I'm not interested in his survey, the more he wants to get in. I wanted to punch him in the face.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #21263
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It's amazing how annoying questioners can be. The more I'm telling the guy I'm not interested in his survey, the more he wants to get in. I wanted to punch him in the face.
Yeah. Usually they're paid for the completed interviews ;-)
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #21264
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Next time he comes for money, he'll get a punch.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:32 AM   #21265
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #21266
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omg what a train accident in Spain!
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:46 AM   #21267
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What about a punch?
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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #21268
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What about a punch?
haven't given any of these for a while (nor received )
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:09 PM   #21269
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omg what a train accident in Spain!
I was one of the first people who read that. At the time it happened, I was on Twitter (With this forum in another tab). There were 78 deaths, and it could be more. RIP .
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #21270
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #21271
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It's some deadly harvest at European railways now - firstly accident in France, then in Spain. And - unfortunately in that case - that two situations happened in countries where HSR is really developed, depended trains being operated with high speeds.

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Old July 25th, 2013, 05:11 PM   #21272
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There are first rumours about how that accident has happened. The driver has been reported to realize the high speed of the train and immediately used the fast train brake. Since the train has consisted from two locomotives on each side of the train, the one on the back started brake a bit later, so the pressure of it pushed and lifted up the carriages (therefore you can see the first carriage after locomotive being a bit shifted or what just before accident happened on the video). Unfortunately it was in very sharp curve and thus the carriages wanted to go on straight and derailed. Maybe if the train driver had passed the curve in 200 kph, the train would not have derailed.

A friend of mine told me that this is one of the most probable version by investigative authorities.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 06:01 PM   #21273
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I put my explanation in Spanish high speed rail thread (last post on page):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...868496&page=73

It was too fast to engotiate this tight curve. Curve has radius of about 400 m and no way any normal train could drive through it at 190 km/h.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #21274
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White trash entertainment has arrived in my hometown. Didnt see any monster engines in the vehicles though,maybe they removed them ?





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Old July 25th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #21275
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There are first rumours about how that accident has happened. The driver has been reported to realize the high speed of the train and immediately used the fast train brake. Since the train has consisted from two locomotives on each side of the train, the one on the back started brake a bit later, so the pressure of it pushed and lifted up the carriages (therefore you can see the first carriage after locomotive being a bit shifted or what just before accident happened on the video). Unfortunately it was in very sharp curve and thus the carriages wanted to go on straight and derailed. Maybe if the train driver had passed the curve in 200 kph, the train would not have derailed.

A friend of mine told me that this is one of the most probable version by investigative authorities.
Nonsense. Limit in that curve was 80 km/h, and he was driving the train at 190. It's as simple as that.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 08:34 PM   #21276
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Nonsense. Limit in that curve was 80 km/h, and he was driving the train at 190. It's as simple as that.
That doesn't mean that a train could not make it..., there is a construction buffer on both sides (train and rail) and then there is luck. I would not throw away this hypothesis so quickly.

But it seems very likely that the speed would be too high anyway.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 10:47 PM   #21277
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Is it me or is imageshack behaving erratic recently? Many photos take terribly long to load and some appear to have a very large resolution for no apparent reason (as if the resize option didn't work). I tried to view a 2.5 MB photo from the Polish SSC section and it took 30 minutes to load (with my 60 mbit connection, everything else works just fine).
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Old July 25th, 2013, 10:55 PM   #21278
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(as if the resize option didn't work)
When uploading stuff with Imageshack I sometimes get that, yes. I delete the pic and do it again. Then it's normal again...
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Old July 25th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #21279
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nothing new with imageshack. they always had long loading
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Old July 26th, 2013, 02:07 PM   #21280
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I recently did for the first time in my life...and broke my hand so badly that I needed surgery. Now I have 2 metal wires in my hand. The other guy was totally fine (luckily). So no more punching for me.
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