daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 15th, 2013, 09:36 AM   #21541
keber
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 9,878
Likes (Received): 1364

Quote:
Originally Posted by italystf View Post
World's scariest bus trip (highway 87, South Dakota, USA)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcsQcOyuIo">YouTube Link</a>
Hmm, what is scary about that? Or the world ends at the US border.
Btw, hello from Stockholm.
keber no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old August 15th, 2013, 04:01 PM   #21542
Penn's Woods
Deadpan Snarker
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,241
Likes (Received): 779

Quote:
Originally Posted by keber View Post
Or the world ends at the US border.
? It wasn't even an American that posted it....

PS: At any rate, that's not possible. Everyone knows the whole world's on GMT+1

:-P
__________________
I didn't vote for him....

DRIVEN IN BEEN IN:
AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
Penn's Woods no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #21543
bogdymol
bogdymod
 
bogdymol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,179

I'm in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Verso, watch out, I'm comming after you.
__________________
Lived, Been, Drove in: A B BG BiH CH CZ D DK E F FIN FL GBZ GR H HR I IRL L M MNE P PL RO RSM S SK SLO SRB UK V
+ Australia, Hong Kong, Macau, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, United Arab Emirates & United States of America
my clinched highways
My wife has just started a travel blog. Check it out here: makeitcount.blog

hofburg liked this post
bogdymol no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 03:26 PM   #21544
hofburg
middle lane hogger
 
hofburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nova Gorica
Posts: 3,270
Likes (Received): 464

hehe. I guess you didn't have time in Nova Gorica then maybe next time. How is the trip so far?
hofburg no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 03:44 PM   #21545
Penn's Woods
Deadpan Snarker
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,241
Likes (Received): 779

Is everyone on this forum either from, or in, Slovenia?
__________________
I didn't vote for him....

DRIVEN IN BEEN IN:
AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
Penn's Woods no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #21546
Wilhem275
The Transporter
 
Wilhem275's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Genoa & Venice [I]
Posts: 2,731
Likes (Received): 766

Slovenia is the center of the known world

And it seems half of Italy went on holiday in Croatia, this summer; so, for a brief moment, they were in Slovenia too
__________________
I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke, and by gum, it put them on the map!
Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail!

Marchionne means never having to say you're sorry.

Due to Photobucket f*cking up, most images won't be visibile in my old posts. If you need anything specific, please write me.
Wilhem275 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 04:34 PM   #21547
hofburg
middle lane hogger
 
hofburg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nova Gorica
Posts: 3,270
Likes (Received): 464

if they didn't get stuck in traffic jam in front of border crossing, in which case the moment wasn't brief, but rather seemingly infinite you know, if they all would have Portoroz as a destination, there would be no jams at all
hofburg no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #21548
DanielFigFoz
Registered User
 
DanielFigFoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: No fixed abode
Posts: 4,428
Likes (Received): 890

There is now specific legislation in the UK against middle and right lane hogging and you can now receive points for it.
DanielFigFoz no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #21549
Road_UK
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Mayrhofen AT, Sneek NL, Bromley UK
Posts: 5,855
Likes (Received): 1599

Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielFigFoz View Post
There is now specific legislation in the UK against middle and right lane hogging and you can now receive points for it.
About time! M25 finally open for business!
Road_UK no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 10:31 PM   #21550
Wilhem275
The Transporter
 
Wilhem275's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Genoa & Venice [I]
Posts: 2,731
Likes (Received): 766

Same law exists in Italy, but the problem is: will it actually be enforced?
__________________
I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke, and by gum, it put them on the map!
Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail!

Marchionne means never having to say you're sorry.

Due to Photobucket f*cking up, most images won't be visibile in my old posts. If you need anything specific, please write me.
Wilhem275 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 11:16 PM   #21551
bogdymol
bogdymod
 
bogdymol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,179

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilhem275 View Post
Same law exists in Italy, but the problem is: will it actually be enforced?
Oh... I hate Italian drivers on 3-lane autostrada. They think that is forbidden to drive on the right lane.
__________________
Lived, Been, Drove in: A B BG BiH CH CZ D DK E F FIN FL GBZ GR H HR I IRL L M MNE P PL RO RSM S SK SLO SRB UK V
+ Australia, Hong Kong, Macau, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, United Arab Emirates & United States of America
my clinched highways
My wife has just started a travel blog. Check it out here: makeitcount.blog

yabbes liked this post
bogdymol no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #21552
bogdymol
bogdymod
 
bogdymol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,179

Quote:
Originally Posted by hofburg View Post
hehe. I guess you didn't have time in Nova Gorica then maybe next time. How is the trip so far?
I arrived late in Nova Gorica, went to bed, and in the morning left early. And I wasn't alone. Maybe next time
__________________
Lived, Been, Drove in: A B BG BiH CH CZ D DK E F FIN FL GBZ GR H HR I IRL L M MNE P PL RO RSM S SK SLO SRB UK V
+ Australia, Hong Kong, Macau, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, United Arab Emirates & United States of America
my clinched highways
My wife has just started a travel blog. Check it out here: makeitcount.blog
bogdymol no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #21553
Suburbanist
on the road
 
Suburbanist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: the rain capital of Europe
Posts: 27,525
Likes (Received): 21227

In any case, car rental agencies don't actually pay attention much to these details like how long have you been licensed, unless you are scrapping by their lower age limit (21-24 years)
__________________
YIMBY - Yes, in my backyard!
Suburbanist no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 01:27 AM   #21554
italystf
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,447
Likes (Received): 2183

Quote:
Originally Posted by Suburbanist View Post
In any case, car rental agencies don't actually pay attention much to these details like how long have you been licensed, unless you are scrapping by their lower age limit (21-24 years)
Why should they? I'm personally against all such discrimination towards beginner drivers (max 100 on motorways, not powerful cars, double penalities, no rental cars). You're a beginner for the first months, not 3 years.
__________________
“The transponder’s personalised signal would be picked up when the car passed through an intersection, and then relayed to a central computer which would calculate the charge according to the intersection and the time of day and add it to the car’s bill” - Nobel Economics Prize winner William Vickrey, proposing a system of electronic tolling for the Washington metropolitan area, 1959
In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
italystf no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #21555
Wilhem275
The Transporter
 
Wilhem275's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Genoa & Venice [I]
Posts: 2,731
Likes (Received): 766

Mmmh... it depends a lot on how much a beginner is actually driving. There is people who drove a car three times in their first year...
__________________
I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke, and by gum, it put them on the map!
Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail!

Marchionne means never having to say you're sorry.

Due to Photobucket f*cking up, most images won't be visibile in my old posts. If you need anything specific, please write me.
Wilhem275 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 01:52 AM   #21556
italystf
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,447
Likes (Received): 2183

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilhem275 View Post
Mmmh... it depends a lot on how much a beginner is actually driving. There is people who drove a car three times in their first year...
It happens with the current legislation that forbide beginners to drive some cars. So, many boys and girls cannot drive if their parents don't have a car suitable to them. So, when they can start to drive all cars legally, they're de facto beginners.
Stupid law, you can do a massacre also with a Fiat 500 and be a good driver with a Lamborghini.
__________________
“The transponder’s personalised signal would be picked up when the car passed through an intersection, and then relayed to a central computer which would calculate the charge according to the intersection and the time of day and add it to the car’s bill” - Nobel Economics Prize winner William Vickrey, proposing a system of electronic tolling for the Washington metropolitan area, 1959
In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
italystf no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 02:17 AM   #21557
Wilhem275
The Transporter
 
Wilhem275's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Genoa & Venice [I]
Posts: 2,731
Likes (Received): 766

I'm talking about older people, who didn't went through that limit*.

I'm a very good driver now, and I was raised with the culture of good driving, but still the Me of today wouldn't rent a car to the Me in his first years of driving. Not enough experience, because of too low chances of having experienced those odds situation which go beyond everyday driving.
Renting a car means driving a different model than the one we're used to, and beginners usually have tried just a couple of different models. And usually people rents cars when they have to drive in unfamiliar areas.
Unfamiliar roads + unfamiliar car + inexperienced driver = problems, and since we're talking about a business which must rely on the availability of vehicles, I understand the agencies' point.


*to everyone else: here we're talking about a law that prohibits beginners to drive cars over a certain power-to-weight ratio in the first year of their license.

Quote:
Originally Posted by italystf View Post
Stupid law, you can do a massacre also with a Fiat 500 and be a good driver with a Lamborghini.
This is propaganda. The odds are completely different, and that's why it's not a stupid law. The limit is too low, ok, but the meaning of the rule is not wrong at all. And it's just one year...
Actually I would raise a bit the limit, and make it two years, so that people can go twice through each season.
__________________
I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrooke, and by gum, it put them on the map!
Well, sir, there's nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail!

Marchionne means never having to say you're sorry.

Due to Photobucket f*cking up, most images won't be visibile in my old posts. If you need anything specific, please write me.

Last edited by Wilhem275; August 17th, 2013 at 02:22 AM.
Wilhem275 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 02:58 AM   #21558
albertocsc
Translator and traveller
 
albertocsc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Frankfurt - Hahn
Posts: 495
Likes (Received): 49

In Spain they have eliminated a 80km/h limit for beginners this decade.

In the other hand, with the introduction of points last decade, new drivers (noveles or L-drivers) get 8 points instead of 12.

I think these are/were the only limitations here, apart from those coming from private entities like rental agencies.
albertocsc no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 03:05 AM   #21559
italystf
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,447
Likes (Received): 2183

Ok with rent companies that with to maximize their gains, ok with powerful cars that are more dangerous (higher max possible speed and less time between 0 and 100) but... some SUVs fall below the power-to-weight ratio, thus they can né driven by beginners. And as everybody know, SUVs cause the worst damages when crashing against lighther cars.
And giving double penalities for the same violation, isn't against our constitution that states that everybody is equal in front of the law?
__________________
“The transponder’s personalised signal would be picked up when the car passed through an intersection, and then relayed to a central computer which would calculate the charge according to the intersection and the time of day and add it to the car’s bill” - Nobel Economics Prize winner William Vickrey, proposing a system of electronic tolling for the Washington metropolitan area, 1959
In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
italystf no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #21560
bogdymol
bogdymod
 
bogdymol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 11,179

Back home after 3575 km in 7 days in Romania, Hungary, Slovenia, Italy and San Marino. Awesome trip! I think I will share on SSC some pictures from the trip when I will have time.

__________________
Lived, Been, Drove in: A B BG BiH CH CZ D DK E F FIN FL GBZ GR H HR I IRL L M MNE P PL RO RSM S SK SLO SRB UK V
+ Australia, Hong Kong, Macau, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, United Arab Emirates & United States of America
my clinched highways
My wife has just started a travel blog. Check it out here: makeitcount.blog
bogdymol no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
highways, motorways

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium