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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:13 PM   #23161
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Is it obligatory to have country tag (bumper sticker) on your vehicle if you go into another country, let's say not EU member state, or is enough to have euroband license plate?
No, you should have an oval stuck on your car.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #23162
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No, you should have an oval stuck on your car.
I think it is not necessary. I really do not know law of which state covers it, but in Slovak law, there are no mentions about foreign licence plates and ovals, only about Slovak ones.

And the law is stated as follows: "every car which do not have "SK" abbreviation on licence plates is required to have a bumper sticker stuck on the car [exact sizes are defined there, but I have not seen or ever heard about the police checking it].

Basically, since it is referred to the old (Czecho)Slovak licence plates which are no more valid, this law is absolutely useless (because all three types of Slovak licence plates have "SK" on it).

Anyway, the law was useless even during it was actual, because, domestic cars driving within Slovakia were not required to have an oval, and cars abroad have no chance to be checked by Slovak police there. Maybe only at exit border checks.

I have driven three different cars with different licence plates, even outside the EU, and have not experienced any problem by not having an oval.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #23163
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volodaaa iz right - if you don' have country code tag at plates, then you must have oval sticker. if you have country tag, you don't have to stick anything.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #23164
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volodaaa iz right - if you don' have country code tag at plates, then you must have oval sticker. if you have country tag, you don't have to stick anything.
That seems logical, thanks guys for information.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #23165
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i was lazy to take a photo sooner. so, here it is, i got those 2 papers:

Actually it's €41. The 30% less (€28,70) is "in case of payment within 5 days".
Now we're over 60 days of delay so it becomes "half of the possible maximum" for what you did wrong. Which is €168/2=€84.

The main problem is that I have no idea of how you can pay that from abroad, whatever the figure is...

In recent years there has been more attention on how to get back money from people living abroad, but I guess there will be not great hassle for such few money. They'll probably just forget it.


Once I was fined in Austria for not paying parking: I tried, but parking spaces along the roads meant buying a €20 credit (and I had to stay there just one hour); they told me to use an underground parking, but my vehicle was 3 meters tall...
Never payed it and never heard of it again.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:48 PM   #23166
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Actually it's €41. The 30% less (€28,70) is "in case of payment within 5 days".
Now we're over 60 days of delay so it becomes "half of the possible maximum" for what you did wrong. Which is €168/2=€84.

The main problem is that I have no idea of how you can pay that from abroad, whatever the figure is...

In recent years there has been more attention on how to get back money from people living abroad, but I guess there will be not great hassle for such few money. They'll probably just forget it.


Once I was fined in Austria for not paying parking: I tried, but parking spaces along the roads meant buying a €20 credit (and I had to stay there just one hour); they told me to use an underground parking, but my vehicle was 3 meters tall...
Never payed it and never heard of it again.
My dad got a ticket in Greece for wrong parking in 2008. It was just a rag of paper stuck beneath the wiper written in very ugly handwritten Greek alphabet. The only legible characters were 15 €. He was parking at "no parking" area. Since he did not know who or where to pay, he just gave it up.

Now the car is mine and the licence plates remained unchanged. I've been four times in Greece since, even at the same place and never heard about the ticket again. But I must confess I always feel a small fear in my mind.
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Actually it's €41. The 30% less (€28,70) is "in case of payment within 5 days".
Now we're over 60 days of delay so it becomes "half of the possible maximum" for what you did wrong. Which is €168/2=€84.
jesus christ! that is 41? i thought it was a signature or something.
btw how did you come out with that max fine of 168€ and half of it?

the worst thing is that i really intended to pay that, but i couldn't find post office, and at tabacchi nobody knew how to use terminal for paying that.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 09:59 PM   #23168
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I received a parking fine in Vienna last year, for 36€. I have German plates.
I payed it 2 days later over online banking after arriving back in Germany.
Of course, money didn't really go where it should have, so I got a letter from Vienna with the fine, which grew to 45€.

I sent some E-Mails, made some calls, after which they found the money I transfered...
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btw how did you come out with that max fine of 168€ and half of it?
The "half of max" is the rule, but about the actual figure I had to search, and I'm not even sure about it...

If it was mine, I'd ask to City Police or similar and they'd tell me what to do with it; but if you're not living there... and I wouldn't bet on those local policemen speaking English...

Fines from abroad are always a problem, we should have a decently clear system covering all the EU.

Penn, how does that work among different States of the US?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #23170
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A significant windstorm will be affecting the North Sea basin tomorrow. Especially Norway, Denmark, Northern Germany and the Netherlands will be impacted.

The Dutch road and water authority will close the storm surge barriers. The Oosterscheldt Barrier will close as well, the first time in 6 years. The expected water level at Vlissingen will be +3.8 m, the highest in 10 years. Substantial flooding can be expected along the Elbe River in Germany, especially in Hamburg. Schools are closed in northern Germany.

N57 Oosterscheldt Barrier:
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:17 PM   #23171
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I received a parking fine in Vienna last year, for 36€. I have German plates.
I payed it 2 days later over online banking after arriving back in Germany.
Of course, money didn't really go where it should have, so I got a letter from Vienna with the fine, which grew to 45€.

I sent some E-Mails, made some calls, after which they found the money I transfered...
i would do it too, but there is no IBAN nor BIC there written on that piece of crap.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #23172
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I wanted to point out that the Austrians did bother sending me a letter, even for only 36€...
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Old December 4th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #23173
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Is overtaking permited in the Netherlands here? According to the Romanian law you are allowed to overtake in case you have such road markings (except the green line... which is not used in Romania).
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Is overtaking permited in the Netherlands here? According to the Romanian law you are allowed to overtake in case you have such road markings (except the green line... which is not used in Romania).
it is. line is dashed here, and green line means speed limit 100 km/h.
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Green line represents the speed limit? Why not do like the other countries do: put a stick into the ground, attach a round metallic board and paint the speed limit on it? It's more efficient like this.
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Green line represents the speed limit? Why not do like the other countries do: put a stick into the ground, attach a round metallic board and paint the speed limit on it? It's more efficient like this.
it is more fancy
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What about color blind people?
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Screw the colorblind!
Well, they should be able to see it. Since the differences should be clear for colorblind people as well. Give me some time to edit with some pics.
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Green line represents the speed limit? Why not do like the other countries do: put a stick into the ground, attach a round metallic board and paint the speed limit on it? It's more efficient like this.
We have the signs as well. It's a plan to make it more clear to what the speed limits are. However, at some locations the road markings don't match the posted speed limit, which doesn't make it very clear...
I basically ignore the road markings indicating speed and just watch signs. I find it easier and obviously more accurate.
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Green line represents the speed limit? Why not do like the other countries do: put a stick into the ground, attach a round metallic board and paint the speed limit on it? It's more efficient like this.
Despite the specific weather conditions, especially their results(snow, mud, etc.), I like this solution more. One simple reason.

In different countries, different rules work for stick in ground with round metallic board attached. I would like to point the cancellation of speed limit out. In some countries, the speed limit ends at the closest edge of intersection, while in others at the last edge of intersection. There are also some countries, where speed limit has to be cancelled by traffic sign.

Coloured lines are simple and indisputable solution.
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Or maybe someone good placed had a paint company and had to make some money?
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