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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #23181
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Despite the specific weather conditions, especially their results(snow, mud, etc.), I like this solution more. One simple reason.

Coloured lines are simple and indisputable solution.
Let me respond to you with a quote from keokiracer's post:

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However, at some locations the road markings don't match the posted speed limit, which doesn't make it very clear...
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If there would be an EU-standard for speed limit signs + markings then it would be ok. But when every country/region has it's own standards it's hard to make this a good solution.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #23182
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Well, nvm editing my previouw post, I'll post a new one.
(excuse for the sometimes really big and kind of crappy pics, but ever since Google+ has been implemented with Youtube and Picasa all Picasa pics are stretched insanely big, which doesn't really help with the quality if you use a videocamera to take pictures like I do)

The green line = 100 km/h (pic coincidentally taken just a bit south of the Oosterscheldt Barrier on the Veerse Gatdam)


This is 80 km/h. Basically 100 km/h without the green line:
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60 km/h: lines on the side of the road


Or no lines at all (not really recommended and unsafe during the night)
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:18 PM   #23183
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60 km/h: lines on the side of the road
Never fully understood how to drive here: I guess I should keep just left of the line (which means driving in the middle of the road), to protect cyclists, and move to the side only when crossing other vehicles, if no other users are standing there. Right?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #23184
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denmark introduced them later too. and its still not mandatory, if i am not mistaken.
I meant countries which might have done it at the moment of joining EU. Denmark is a member of EU since 70's, then nobody even thinks about marking anything at license plates

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jesus christ! that is 41? i thought it was a signature or something.
btw how did you come out with that max fine of 168€ and half of it?

the worst thing is that i really intended to pay that, but i couldn't find post office, and at tabacchi nobody knew how to use terminal for paying that.
Welcome in... more civilised part of EU? No, I don't think so; I guess if you give it up, it won't come back to you in the future. :P

My father got a shot from speed camera in Austria in 2000 or 2001, I can't remember. Gave it up and nothing happened. But, what might be important, he drove a car with black Polish plates, without any country code or something.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #23185
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....Penn, how does that work among different States of the US?
Penn is a very law-abiding person who's gotten one speeding ticket and a few parking tickets in his life. All the parking tickets were in Philadelphia and the last couple I got thrown out for being invalid (they really were). The speeding ticket was in Maryland (fricking automatic camera) and I paid it.

So my experience is limited. :-P

That said, the Constitution requires the states to recognize legal actions of other states, so if I'd ignored that Maryland ticket and they felt strongly enough about it, they could sue in Pennsylvania to collect the debt. And of course there's no issue of differing currencies.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #23186
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Or no lines at all (not really recommended and unsafe during the night)
How ... what? Unsafe? Not recommended?
Don't you people know how to drive anymore?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:44 PM   #23187
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Also Austria uses the painted green median in some roads. I saw it on the S37 near Klagenfurt, that is 4 lane single carriaggeway.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:44 PM   #23188
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Well, nvm editing my previouw post, I'll post a new one.
(excuse for the sometimes really big and kind of crappy pics, but ever since Google+ has been implemented with Youtube and Picasa all Picasa pics are stretched insanely big, which doesn't really help with the quality if you use a videocamera to take pictures like I do)

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Pix edited out 'cause some people don't like copying them in replies.

Wait, I haven't been paying close attention to this, but are you saying that the different types of lines are the only indication of the speed limit, or are there signs as well?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #23189
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Never fully understood how to drive here: I guess I should keep just left of the line (which means driving in the middle of the road), to protect cyclists, and move to the side only when crossing other vehicles, if no other users are standing there. Right?
Uninterrupted lines may be crossed at all times. So it's up to you if you wish to drive in the middle of the road and move to the right if a vehicle is coming from the other side, or if you want to keep right and move to the middle to overtake a cyclist or something else slow moving.
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:50 PM   #23190
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Uninterrupted lines may be crossed at all times. So it's up to you if you wish to drive in the middle of the road and move to the right if a vehicle is coming from the other side, or if you want to keep right and move to the middle to overtake a cyclist or something else slow moving.
Is the general rule "dashed:yes cross, solid: no cross" applied worldwide?
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Old December 4th, 2013, 11:53 PM   #23191
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Don't you people know how to drive anymore?
Go ahead, try and drive in the middle of the night in pitch black without road markings or anything on a road you've never been.


@Penn's: there are signs as well.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #23192
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Uninterrupted lines may be crossed at all times. So it's up to you if you wish to drive in the middle of the road and move to the right if a vehicle is coming from the other side, or if you want to keep right and move to the middle to overtake a cyclist or something else slow moving.
So, I guess what they try to do is a psychological trick to have you driving in the middle (I wouldn't like to drive OVER a line for a long time).
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:33 AM   #23193
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volodaaa iz right - if you don' have country code tag at plates, then you must have oval sticker. if you have country tag, you don't have to stick anything.
Are you sure you don't need an oval in say... Afghanistan? You don't need it in the EU (and I think EEA and CH, although I'm not sure), but Broccolli was asking about non-EU countries. Here's what Wikipedia says:
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:43 AM   #23194
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I drove in Serbia with a Romanian plate that had the country code and flag on it, like this one. Nobody had a problem with that.



I drove in Croatia last year, it was not in the EU then, with German license plate, that had the country code and flag on it, also no problems. In Switzerland and Liechtenstein, the same. No other non-EU countries driven.
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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #23195
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Here's a good joke from Romania:

A Romanian supermarket chain called Mega Image has 200+ stores in Romania, but most of them are in Bucharest. They are relatively small stores at the first floor of buildings and they are all over Bucharest.

A Romanian humor website called timesnewroman.ro is always making jokes about this supermarket chain that builds a new store every night. They had some articles saying that they opened a store within a store, a store factory, a store in somebody's living room etc. Basically they are joking about the store's expansion.

On Monday morning the website's authors had a big surprise when they headed to their office:

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Old December 5th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #23196
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I drove a Romanian-registered car without the oval, but only the country-flag and RO on the license plate in Hungary, Austria, Germany, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Croatia (non-EU at that time), Slovenia and Serbia, without any problems.

I also drove a Romanian-registered car without the oval, but with the EU stars and RO on the license plate in Hungary, Austria, Slovenia, Italy, San Marino, (and Serbia + Greece - my parents) without any problems.

I believe that in Europe (EU + non-EU) you can drive without any problems if you have your country's standard license plate (with the country code and flag/stars).
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So in the past years ( i haven't got oval sticker since euroband license plates were introduced in Slovenia) i was breaking the law every time i crossed SLO-CRO border?
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Euroband license plate have the country code inside the circle of stars
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Euroband license plate have the country code inside the circle of stars
Yes that's why i don't have oval sticker anymore
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