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Old March 30th, 2014, 10:53 AM   #24561
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Summer time has arrived in Europe, three weeks after our North American friends.

It came with appropriate temperatures. Today even up to 24 °C is forecasted.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #24562
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meanwhile in southern Spain....snow



Picture is from A-92 near Antequera (the village in the picture). The mountain range is the betican mountain range. those peaks are just under 1400 mts. Its very rare to have snow at this date.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 06:13 PM   #24563
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ha, snow, here, we have had at least 10 cm fall since last night
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Old March 30th, 2014, 07:21 PM   #24564
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Today I've driven this route. I'm surprised Google Maps nailed it, no intermediate points were needed .
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Old March 30th, 2014, 10:27 PM   #24565
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I used to love ViaMichelin online road maps for Europe: updated, and clearly showing the road typologies (contrary to the mess of Google MAps).

However, they haven't updated their cartographic base in a while... many newly open highways are missing. I think they are going to ultimately abandon their maps.
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Old March 30th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #24566
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I used to love ViaMichelin online road maps for Europe: updated, and clearly showing the road typologies (contrary to the mess of Google MAps).

However, they haven't updated their cartographic base in a while... many newly open highways are missing. I think they are going to ultimately abandon their maps.
I think Viamichelin lost a lot of appeal after the implementation of many functions on Google Maps: the Earth View, Panoramio images and, of course, Street View. Google Maps is now embedded in many websites (e.g. to show the location of a company in an interactive map) and it's also available as Android app. Also Tomtom and Garmin GPS units are likely to disappear thanks to smarthphones with integrated GPS that rely on the costantly updated Google Maps.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 12:13 PM   #24567
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I think Viamichelin lost a lot of appeal after the implementation of many functions on Google Maps: the Earth View, Panoramio images and, of course, Street View. Google Maps is now embedded in many websites (e.g. to show the location of a company in an interactive map) and it's also available as Android app. Also Tomtom and Garmin GPS units are likely to disappear thanks to smarthphones with integrated GPS that rely on the costantly updated Google Maps.
The only problem is the price of packet data. It is bearable unless you decide to travel outside EU (e.g. Balkan peninsula). Therefore it is sometimes still better to have an "old GPS".

Btw. some funny stuff from Slovak Waze community

Waze: always actual information on police patrols and radars:
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...21231653_o.jpg

Waze: always up to date:
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...69966507_o.jpg
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Old March 31st, 2014, 02:34 PM   #24568
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In Hungary I always use Waze, it's very reliable. After I had moved to Germany I tried to use Waze here, too. But it was a huge fail. In Germany nobody use it because of Datenschutz (privacy) issues. "Waze must not know where I am" is the key, and since Waze was taken by Google, this attitude is even stronger.
So now I use HTC Locations, the self made navigation system of HTC which is only available in HTC smartphones. In Germany is it basically OK, but e.g. in Denmark was the map quality quite low. HTC Locations use offline maps so no data traffic is needed at all (but if the map is not saved in phone, it can be loaded from the web).
As far as I know HTC use TomTom maps.
There's Navigon for Android, it used to use Navteq which has basically better quality (at least I think so), but I've read that now they, too, use TomTom. So then change from HTC Locations to Navigon has no sense, even if Navigon user interface is better.

I'Ve read that sometimes this year will iGO be available for Android, with Navteq maps, and TopMap maps for Eastern Europe. This combination has the better available quality in offline service, I think.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 02:50 PM   #24569
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In Hungary I always use Waze, it's very reliable. After I had moved to Germany I tried to use Waze here, too. But it was a huge fail. In Germany nobody use it because of Datenschutz (privacy) issues. "Waze must not know where I am" is the key, and since Waze was taken by Google, this attitude is even stronger.
So now I use HTC Locations, the self made navigation system of HTC which is only available in HTC smartphones. In Germany is it basically OK, but e.g. in Denmark was the map quality quite low. HTC Locations use offline maps so no data traffic is needed at all (but if the map is not saved in phone, it can be loaded from the web).
As far as I know HTC use TomTom maps.
There's Navigon for Android, it used to use Navteq which has basically better quality (at least I think so), but I've read that now they, too, use TomTom. So then change from HTC Locations to Navigon has no sense, even if Navigon user interface is better.

I'Ve read that sometimes this year will iGO be available for Android, with Navteq maps, and TopMap maps for Eastern Europe. This combination has the better available quality in offline service, I think.
I fell in love with Sygic. It came with my cell phone package as a trial version. It claimed it was free for 1 year, but I used the trial version for 3 years.

It allowed me to download a map of particular countries for offline purposes. Navigated very good. I indeed appreciate its possibility to recognize almost all the intersections with lane alignment.

Unfortunately, I reinstalled my HTC and I have not been allowed to re-install it since.

Now I consider purchasing, but the references on particular Android shop are not very favourable and I don't want to waste my money.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 03:09 PM   #24570
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I'Ve read that sometimes this year will iGO be available for Android, with Navteq maps, and TopMap maps for Eastern Europe. This combination has the better available quality in offline service, I think.
I have installed on my Android (Samsung) phone iGO navigation and works very good. I don't use it very often, but only once every few weeks (months) when I have to drive to an unknown location.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 03:15 PM   #24571
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I have a Mio Spirit S685, with microSD card where I've installed igo primo 2.
It cand work with TomTom (Teleatlas), Navteq or local maps.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:11 PM   #24572
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I have a Nokia Lumia, we can pre-download any countries map data on the phones storage and have voice-guided GPS offline .
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My clinched highways in Latvia (updated Jan 2018), Lithuania (updated Jan 2018) &
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Old April 1st, 2014, 02:20 AM   #24573
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I have a Nokia Lumia, we can pre-download any countries map data on the phones storage and have voice-guided GPS offline .
Bing maps are as good as Googles, better in some countries on average. Bing Aerial Imagery is the very best of all the big maps. Ultra high quality and very extensive in the developed world.

Shame about Apple though, their maps are really rubbish.

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Old April 1st, 2014, 08:51 PM   #24574
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I have a Nokia Lumia, we can pre-download any countries map data on the phones storage and have voice-guided GPS offline .
But that's only for Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, right? At least what I read on windows phone website... I bought Lumia aswell.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 09:55 PM   #24575
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depends which one. 520 and 720 have region locked navigation, you have to buy worldwide version.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 09:59 PM   #24576
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But that's only for Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, right? At least what I read on windows phone website... I bought Lumia aswell.
Depends on the Lumia you bought, a few low-end one's are limited to three countries, the mid and high-end Lumia's can download as much offline maps as the phone's storage allows.
I have a Lumia 920, and I have map data for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czech Republic, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France and UK.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 10:25 PM   #24577
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Ah, ok then, I have the 520 version.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 02:59 PM   #24578
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Meanwhile in Slovenia:

A proud owner of new SUV wanted to test its capabilities in the partially dry riverbed of Soča river. Result was a stuck car which has to be towed away by firefighters and a fine for driving in the natural environment.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 03:05 PM   #24579
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Reminds me of these two Hummers in lake Balaton (from February, 2012):
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 03:07 PM   #24580
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And what's the fine for driving in natural enviroment in Slovenia?
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