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Old May 2nd, 2014, 01:50 AM   #24861
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But the roots of Slavic languages are common and therefore we all have common accents, which are written differently

ч (RU) = Ћ (SRB) = č (CZ, SK, HR) = pronounce ch (like cheek)
Ћ is not same as Ч! Ч=Č=ch in English, but Ћ=Ć=like soft ch.

Poles also have letter (and sound) Ć.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 02:03 AM   #24862
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Ћ is not same as Ч! Ч=Č=ch in English, but Ћ=Ć=like soft ch.

Poles also have letter (and sound) Ć.
Thank you. So Serbs do not have a symbol for Č? Or do you not use that?
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 10:04 AM   #24863
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They use both, Ћ and Ч (Ć and Č).
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 03:48 PM   #24864
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Or we could say as Putin, "first duty is to protect our citizens, anywhere"

I mean, the first two times, the US got involved and a lot of Americans died. NATO protects America by keeping Europe safe enough that Americans don't have to go out there and put out the fire
Not just his citizens but people of his ethnolinguistic group. Sort of like the president of a NATO member shouting from the steps of the city hall of the largest city in another NATO member, about 1968, "Vive le Québec libre !" :-)

To be (briefly) serious again, I'm less concerned about having to go over there and put out the fire than the possibility that such a, um, fire-extinguishing action quickly leads to a worldwide conflagration. In which case we wouldn't really have defended anyone.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 09:17 PM   #24865
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Ћ is not same as Ч! Ч=Č=ch in English, but Ћ=Ć=like soft ch.

Poles also have letter (and sound) Ć.
Yeah. I know. It is very similar to our Ť.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 11:06 PM   #24866
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You quoted the same post twice. I think I haven't seen that before.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 09:51 PM   #24867
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:00 PM   #24868
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Good driver... He just avoided a nasty accident.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:43 PM   #24869
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:51 PM   #24870
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Hello from Zagreb!
What's up with this crazy wind and rain?
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #24871
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Old May 4th, 2014, 02:28 AM   #24872
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Hello from Zagreb!
What's up with this crazy wind and rain?
It's lovely here today. :-)
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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #24873
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It's lovely here today. :-)
Just wait to winter
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Old May 4th, 2014, 01:04 PM   #24874
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What is this 'winter' you are speaking of?
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Old May 4th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #24875
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What is this 'winter' you are speaking of?
The last winter, when average temperatures in Europe did not decrease below 10°C and North America was experiencing severe snow calamities Weather is completely crazy here. 9°C and windy as hell.
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Old May 4th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #24876
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Old May 4th, 2014, 05:07 PM   #24877
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So is that your new car Chris?

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Old May 4th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #24878
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Please. Plenty of NATO members stayed out of Iraq. (And they were right to, in my opinion.) Even Afghanistan. (More debatable.) I'm speaking personally, not as a representative of my country.

But for 60-odd years, we've been funding your defense (well, the defense of some of you) giving you all (some of you) the luxury of sitting on the sidelines condemning us in your media and in forums like this one for our foreign policy and everything else from the way we eat to race relations to the metric system to our supposed stupidity. I could just as easily say "now that you need us*," you'll suddenly stop treating us like ignorant children or the evil empire? "Sweet." But I'm not holding my breath on that one. And I'm not going to be incinerated in my own home for Simferopol, Donetsk, Khark[o/i]v, Tallinn or even Ljubljana or Paris.

You all think, as you have forever (notwithstanding ample evidence to the contrary), that you're the only civilized part of the planet? Well, then you can prove it by growing a pair and taking care of yourselves.

*"for a change"? Please. Since 1945.
That's a very selfish view indeed.

Estonia has taken part of NATO missions since 1996 (i.e. only 2 years after Russian forces left our soil). Estonian soldiers have served in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan. Why? Because as a member of NATO, it's our duty to do that. The war in Iraq was purely a US-issue, yet we still sent our troops. By claiming that you wouldn't want US troops to protect antoher NATO member is very hypocritical.

Estonia spends 2% of its GDP on military i.e the amount recommended by NATO. The only members that spend as much or more are the US, UK and Greece.

BTW, I think nobody really believes that the US would protect the Baltics against Russia, no country would. We just don't matter that much. The vague words from NATO leaders about having permanent forces in the Baltics are an indication of that.

The reason why we still want to be part of NATO is because it's an extra deterrant against Russia.

A possible alternative to NATO in our region would be a military union between Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. We're all in a similar geographic position relative to Russia and we have similar foreign policies concerning Russia. Finland would ideally also be part of this union but they are keen on keeping their "neutrality" which in reality means being a puppet doll of Russia if necessary.

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Old May 4th, 2014, 06:39 PM   #24879
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Old May 4th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #24880
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BTW, I think nobody really believes that the US would protect the Baltics against Russia, no country would.
I think you're right, but I think that NATO and the EU are enough of a deterrent for Russia too.
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