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Old May 20th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #25281
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I read on Asfinag page that Karawankeltunnel is opened only on one lane till 15. June.
Maximum waiting time of 30 minutes.

Should I take the wait time or maybe try a different route?
They don't seem to be quicker though...

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Karawankentunnel in beiden Richtungen Baustelle, Für beide Richtungen nur ein Fahrstreifen abwechselnd frei, Wartezeit bis zu 30 min bis 20.06.2014 19:00 Uhr
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Old May 20th, 2014, 01:25 PM   #25282
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what about this one?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sibi...8678!3e0?hl=ro

Btw. Ouranopoli is a nice town. I've been there on a trip from Asprovalta. I wanted to take it by a scooter, but there was no rent a scooter service in Asprovalta, so I take it by a car. Fortunately. The road is so curvy.
Thanks for this suggestion!
This route is a bit more longer, but more than half is on the motorway.
Is is safety to drive in Serbia and Macedonia, instead Bulgaria?
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Old May 20th, 2014, 01:35 PM   #25283
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Is is safety to drive in Serbia and Macedonia, instead Bulgaria?
Definitely. I am driving it since 2006 every year. The only "problem" in Macedonia is the lack of international fuel companies and (perhaps) thus the unsatisfactory hygiene conditions at roadside rest areas. But it took barely 2 hours to get through Macedonia and the roadside rest areas in Serbia satisfies almost all western standards. Moreover, in Macedonia and south Serbia, you can find yourself in a beautiful nature.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 01:51 PM   #25284
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Definitely. I am driving it since 2006 every year. The only "problem" in Macedonia is the lack of international fuel companies and (perhaps) thus the unsatisfactory hygiene conditions at roadside rest areas. But it took barely 2 hours to get through Macedonia and the roadside rest areas in Serbia satisfies almost all western standards. Moreover, in Macedonia and south Serbia, you can find yourself in a beautiful nature.
Thanks!
2 years ago I was in Montenegro and I passed through Serbia. I felt much better on the roads in Serbia than in Bulgaria. I've been in Bulgaria for 3 times, but every time I had a strange feeling.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:21 PM   #25285
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2 years ago I was in Montenegro and I passed through Serbia. I felt much better on the roads in Serbia than in Bulgaria. I've been in Bulgaria for 3 times, but every time I had a strange feeling.
I used to drive through Bulgaria before 2006 when I need visa to enter Macedonia. The roads were not completely in bad condition, but the border crossing were very annoying. Moody officers, stupid bureaucracy (car disinfection), long queues. The lack of motorway and the necessity to drive through Sofia in rush our was not good as well. I've seen that Bulgaria made huge steps, but it is still faster through Macedonia. Since I'm planning the route for this year, I still considering to go back through Bulgaria and Romania, but I am not still decided yet.

90 % of E-75 route through Macedonia is like this:
[IMG]http://oi59.************/34ga7mc.jpg[/IMG]

But I suggest you to visit Macedonia thread
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Old May 20th, 2014, 03:42 PM   #25286
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I read on Asfinag page that Karawankeltunnel is opened only on one lane till 15. June.
Maximum waiting time of 30 minutes.

Should I take the wait time or maybe try a different route?
They don't seem to be quicker though...
Wait, be a good boy and pay.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 04:12 PM   #25287
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I read on Asfinag page that Karawankeltunnel is opened only on one lane till 15. June.
Maximum waiting time of 30 minutes.

Should I take the wait time or maybe try a different route?
They don't seem to be quicker though...
Wurzenpass/Korensko sedlo is closed too and over Loiblpass/Ljubelj you will need additional 30 minutes. Bad luck if you'd wait 30 minutes, it is more likely that you wait around 15 minutes at most. However check your planned routes through Bosnia, country has been affected by once-in-a-lifetime floods and landslides and many roads were completely destroyed and some towns like Doboj are inaccessible even now.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 04:48 PM   #25288
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Thanks, was also thinking that waiting at Karawanke would be actually quicker.
Regarding BiH, I only plan to drive from Trogir to Mostar then to Dubrovnik, and as I have seen, those areas are not affected.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:57 PM   #25289
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I've 'ordered' a 2015 Rand McNally road atlas. I have a relative who just arrived in New York City, I asked her if she can find one for me .
That used to come out in November...gets earlier every year. A couple of years ago, right this time of year, I saw the next year's at a store in Gettysburg and realized I didn't have the current year's yet. (I buy it every year. 'Cause I'm weird that way.)
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The Rand McNally Atlas is available through internet stores in the Netherlands. For example Dutch internet retailer bol.com sells the large scale edition for € 14.49
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Old May 20th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #25291
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Not a bad price, actually, considering....

(I think the non-large-scale edition is $14.95 here.)

Talking of Dutch internet retailers, what's the difference between a "reisboekwinkel" and a "reisboekhandel"? De Zwerver in Groningen uses one term and someone in Arnhem I came across uses the other....
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Old May 20th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #25292
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This one is the longest route and takes the longest time. Why would he go through 2 countries with unpredictable borders And it costs more money, especially in Serbia.
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Old May 20th, 2014, 11:06 PM   #25293
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In Sweden it's legal to practice driving privately, but I wonder if people from Finland are allowed to come here and do so. In Denmark you have to go to driving school to practice driving as practice driving privately is not allowed there.



Car belonging to a gypsy family from Finland.
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Old May 21st, 2014, 12:59 PM   #25294
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What's so special about that car?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:16 PM   #25295
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Old May 21st, 2014, 01:36 PM   #25296
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So in England it would have L-plates on. And it apparently belongs to Gipsy's. And it has Finnish plates.

What's so special about that car?
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:04 PM   #25297
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So in England it would have L-plates on. And it apparently belongs to Gipsy's. And it has Finnish plates.

What's so special about that car?
Well. It's not very often you see motorists with forreign registered cars using our "learning to drive" magnetic sticker.

I wonder if it is allowed in other countries. In Denmark for instance you are not allowed to learn to drive privately, you have to go to an authorized driving school. So I have read that some danish (and finnish) people take their car to Sweden to practice to drive privately here, which is somewhat improper, because driving conditions and signs are not the same.
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Normally it's not, but I've seen plenty of L plates on British cars in France. Also, the fact that this particular vehicle has a learner driver sticker on it, doesn't necessarily mean that the learner driver was actually driving in Sweden. And that sticker looks pretty solid, yoiu don't want to put a new sticker on every time mummy or daddy let their kids drive...
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Old May 21st, 2014, 10:59 PM   #25299
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Also, the fact that this particular vehicle has a learner driver sticker on it, doesn't necessarily mean that the learner driver was actually driving in Sweden. .
Well although Finland is bilingual finnish/swedish I dont think that this sticker is valid in other countries than Sweden. Who understands what "ÖVNINGSKÖR" means elsewhere ? The sticker is magnetic and easilly removable so I dont see why it's attached on a finnish registered car in Sweden if the learning driver isnt driving it.
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Well. It's not very often you see motorists with forreign registered cars using our "learning to drive" magnetic sticker.

I wonder if it is allowed in other countries. In Denmark for instance you are not allowed to learn to drive privately, you have to go to an authorized driving school. So I have read that some danish (and finnish) people take their car to Sweden to practice to drive privately here, which is somewhat improper, because driving conditions and signs are not the same.
It's completely legal in Finland.

But instead of those övningskör stickers we use magnetic triangle stickers:

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