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Old May 27th, 2014, 11:57 AM   #25361
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Then I'd definitely stick with "above". I looked the word afore up, it dates back to the year 900. I don't think it's used in modern English these days, unless you're preparing a speech in Ye Olde Village Pub. So your best bet:

The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis as stated above
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Old May 27th, 2014, 12:07 PM   #25362
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Then I'd definitely stick with "above". I looked the word afore up, it dates back to the year 900. I don't think it's used in modern English these days, unless you're preparing a speech in Ye Olde Village Pub. So your best bet:

The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis as stated above
Ok, thank you very much then I should stop reading Stoker's Dracula.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #25363
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How about the EU elections? (Or Belgian ones?) Or does no one care? I caught a bit of the BBC TV coverage around 10 to 11:30 p.m. British time yesterday but they were talking precious little about anything outside Britain. A few minutes about France and a lot of "calls" of results in British constituencies.
Although Eurosceptic parties did receive more seats than before (and even won in the UK, France, Denmark and Greece), the majority of seats still belong to pro-EU parties so the EU will follow its current course, I guess.

By voting for Eurosceptic parties, those countries actually decreased their influence in the EU since they will have more seats in the opposition.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 12:30 PM   #25364
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Although Eurosceptic parties did receive more seats than before (and even won in the UK, France, Denmark and Greece), the majority of seats still belong to pro-EU parties so the EU will follow its current course, I guess.

By voting for Eurosceptic parties, those countries actually decreased their influence in the EU since they will have more seats in the opposition.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 02:57 PM   #25365
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Sorry for cutting in, but I need an English-related advice.

I need to transform the following sentence into passive voice:
"We took the advantage of its simplicity to verify the hypothesis stated afore".

Could it be done like this?
"The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis stated afore"?
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"Its simplicity has been taken advantage to verify..."

Thank you very much ;-)
I'll get back to you on that after the caffeine's kicked in.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:09 PM   #25366
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I know voting in Belgium is obligatory, but what's the reason for the high turnout in Italy?
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:28 PM   #25367
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That said, on the day Pope John Paul II died, I was in Washington
I was on my way to Brussels (by bus). He was still alive when we left Ljubljana, but died before we reached Austria.
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The Far Right and euroscepticism are rising.... Maybe it's time for federalization before it's too late... If other countries follow France, we 're f****
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #25369
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I know voting in Belgium is obligatory, but what's the reason for the high turnout in Italy?
Pretty interesting. It is even above common average.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #25370
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I know voting in Belgium is obligatory, but what's the reason for the high turnout in Italy?
Italy always had a larger turnout than the rest of UE, regarding European elections. The overall UE turnout is 43% (+0.1% with respect to the previous elections), while Italy stands at 58% with a solid -8% difference with 2009.

I don't really know why turnout is so large here.
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The Far Right and euroscepticism are rising.... Maybe it's time for federalization before it's too late... If other countries follow France, we 're f****
European Union is a great invention. But it seems it has problem to define its basic nature.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #25372
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The Far Right and euroscepticism are rising.... Maybe it's time for federalization before it's too late... If other countries follow France, we 're f****
That would bring even more euroscepticism. And it's not like federalization can't be reversed. But it usually ends up worse.
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That would bring even more euroscepticism. And it's not like federalization can't be reversed. But it usually ends up worse.
Aren't you talking about YU, are YU?
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Well, I don't want the EU to follow its path.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 04:18 PM   #25375
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Sorry for cutting in, but I need an English-related advice.

I need to transform the following sentence into passive voice:
"We took the advantage of its simplicity to verify the hypothesis stated afore".

Could it be done like this?
"The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis stated afore"?
or
"Its simplicity has been taken advantage to verify..."

Thank you very much ;-)
At first (pre-caffeine), I thought you were trying to say "take advantage of." You mean that you're taking the fact that whatever it is is so simple as proof of the aforementioned hypothesis?


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it is used in scientific paper instead of "above" Referring to something you are expected to have already read.
There is a word "aforementioned." Means "mentioned previously." But I don't know if I'd use it for something you're expected to have read elsewhere...only for something that has already been discussed in this article.

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Then I'd definitely stick with "above". I looked the word afore up, it dates back to the year 900. I don't think it's used in modern English these days, unless you're preparing a speech in Ye Olde Village Pub. So your best bet:

The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis as stated above
I like this, although I don't know if you need the "as."
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That would bring even more euroscepticism. And it's not like federalization can't be reversed. But it usually ends up worse.
Not if euroscepticism is beaten by EU campaigns that inform the public about the potential of this project.
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Thank you, PW ;-)
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Old May 27th, 2014, 05:08 PM   #25379
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Not if euroscepticism is beaten by EU campaigns that inform the public about the potential of this project.
It's not going to happen. Too many people are too proud of their country. It will never work. Not in a democratic way anyway. The EU itself can work, but not if nationals are to be governed by this institution. I think it's quite right if people want powers to be taken away from Brussels.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #25380
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I know voting in Belgium is obligatory, but what's the reason for the high turnout in Italy?
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Pretty interesting. It is even above common average.
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Italy always had a larger turnout than the rest of UE, regarding European elections. The overall UE turnout is 43% (+0.1% with respect to the previous elections), while Italy stands at 58% with a solid -8% difference with 2009.

I don't really know why turnout is so large here.
I don't know either
But it's always been very high, both in National and in European elections. I can guess that EU turnout is high because a lot of people see EU elections as a smaller version of the national ones. A lot of people don't vote for Europe, but they vote pro/against national parties.
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