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Old May 27th, 2014, 07:30 PM   #25381
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Then I'd definitely stick with "above". I looked the word afore up, it dates back to the year 900. I don't think it's used in modern English these days, unless you're preparing a speech in Ye Olde Village Pub. So your best bet:

The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis as stated above
How about "The advantage of its simplicity was used to verify the hypothesis stated above?" To me, it sounds a little more natural than "has been taken," although that's certainly also an accurate way to say it.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 07:56 PM   #25382
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Sorry for cutting in, but I need an English-related advice.

I need to transform the following sentence into passive voice:
"We took the advantage of its simplicity to verify the hypothesis stated afore".

Could it be done like this?
"The advantage of its simplicity has been taken to verify the hypothesis stated afore"?
or
"Its simplicity has been taken advantage to verify..."

Thank you very much ;-)
I disagree with Road to some extent, I wouldn't say 'stated afore' either but 'aforementioned hypothesis' would be fine in that context.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #25383
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How about "The advantage of its simplicity was used to verify the hypothesis stated above?" To me, it sounds a little more natural than "has been taken," although that's certainly also an accurate way to say it.
Well, it is a common phrase "take advantage of something". It means "it was used/employed/exploited/utilized" in positive manner, but sometimes you need synonyms to avoid the plain text looking lame (I mean, repeating "it was used" in every sentence"
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Old May 27th, 2014, 09:22 PM   #25384
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I myself are absolute pro-EU, but this so called European Parliament is nothing but a large amount of shit. Actually I think it should not exist at all. It has not any sense. The really important decisions are not made in EP but in the council of national leaders.
And, according to statistics, in EP the deputies usually (over 80%) don't vote by political parties (e.g. French ang German socialists together against French ang German Conservatives) but by nations (e.g. French socialists and conseratives together against German ones). And as a quantity of MEPs by nation is fixed, this elections have even less sense than the EP itself.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 10:33 PM   #25385
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Old May 27th, 2014, 10:51 PM   #25386
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I myself are absolute pro-EU, but this so called European Parliament is nothing but a large amount of shit. Actually I think it should not exist at all. It has not any sense. The really important decisions are not made in EP but in the council of national leaders.
And, according to statistics, in EP the deputies usually (over 80%) don't vote by political parties (e.g. French ang German socialists together against French ang German Conservatives) but by nations (e.g. French socialists and conseratives together against German ones). And as a quantity of MEPs by nation is fixed, this elections have even less sense than the EP itself.
As you can see, Slovaks seem like they don't belong to the EU. The turnout was incredible 13 %. I am going to do my best to explain this.

European parliament is somehow very attractive for bankrupted and burned out politicians who offer only and only populist promises (like former ice hockey player, unsuccessful heads of ministries from unsuccessful government, rappers, young people with nebulous (financial) background, extreme communists and strange parties named like "Offence" or "Dawn" etc.

The only normal (sorry, I'd like to write "normal") politicians were candidates from party which is anti-EU (I still don't know the purpose why they even ran for EP? To take it apart from the inside or what? ).

The second one is the fact you've already stressed. I don't remember any normal law approved by EP? Straight bananas? Straight cucumbers? Cod endangerment in Baltic sea? Banning Belarus from IHWC?

We are in transportation section of this site. Look at the laws approved or suggested on transportation (uniforming of traffic laws, signs or tolls perhaps). Nothing.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 11:02 PM   #25387
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EU regulations often make sense, for example a business in Belgium can make a product according to a single regulation, and they can sell it to the 500 million customers of the EU at once, instead of producing several variants for local regulations. This is especially important for small businesses which produce for niche markets that are often too small to cater to in a single country.

However, there are many regulations that are better left to the countries. I think the EU has more conformity in law and regulations than the U.S. at some points.

The cost and expenditure of the EU should not be exaggerated though, the EU budget is only 1% of GDP.
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Old May 27th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #25388
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Funny, the province of Overijssel in the Netherlands has the shortest average work week in Europe, at 29.1 hours. The longest work weeks are in Turkey and Greece. The Netherlands overall has the shortest work week in Europe, due to the high proportion of double income households.

http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/...tion.do?dvsc=4
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Old May 28th, 2014, 01:31 AM   #25389
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EU regulations often make sense, for example a business in Belgium can make a product according to a single regulation, and they can sell it to the 500 million customers of the EU at once, instead of producing several variants for local regulations. This is especially important for small businesses which produce for niche markets that are often too small to cater to in a single country.

However, there are many regulations that are better left to the countries. I think the EU has more conformity in law and regulations than the U.S. at some points.

The cost and expenditure of the EU should not be exaggerated though, the EU budget is only 1% of GDP.
This is my opinion too... the Common Market alone has been a huge benefit to Europe, likewise related initiatives like Schengen. But then there is crap like the Common Agricultural Policy (just to name one stupid and insanely expensive thing) which only hurts everyone. But if they propose change, all the farmers of France will go and spray faecal matter all over Brussels, and with Schengen, they can't be stopped
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Old May 28th, 2014, 02:04 AM   #25390
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EU bring many benefits to his citizens and businesses: possibility to work easily in another country, possibility to study and make cultural exchanges in another country, duty-free trade between member countries, guarantee of peace and democracy.
It's also better for common people, because in EU countries there are laws to protect workers' and consumers' rights, the environment, the free market competition, and product sold must be respect strict safety and hygiene standards. Probably, without the EU, similar laws would have been made by the single countries, but maybe some countries would have been more lax than other, giving less protection to the general population who sign job contracts, buy goods and services,...

Many people who are anti-europeist are actually against the euro (and the ECB power and so...) and common people think EU=euro, while in reality the latter came into force around 50 years after the earliest sort of European Union and, even today, many EU countries don't use the euro.
However it's a matter of fact that the introduction of the euro was badly implemented, since it is monetary union without political union and was not estabilished a "rescue plan" for member countries in financial difficulties. EU and the common market area could have survived without a currency union, maybe with fixed exchange rates between European currencies, like it was estabilished with the ERM agreement in 1979. On the other hand, many argue that for some countries with weaker currencies, it would be very expensive to import foreign goods, so the euro is better for them.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old May 28th, 2014, 09:27 AM   #25391
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why i can not upload attachments ? please someone tell me
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Old May 28th, 2014, 10:16 AM   #25392
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Old May 28th, 2014, 10:56 AM   #25393
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why i can not upload attachments ? please someone tell me
Look: you have been throwing these questions all over the forum now, and you have been given answers.

You cannot upload attachments. You can only hotlink them. I'll help you, and we'll take it step by step.

Step 1:

Open an account with Photobucket. www.photobucket.com
Let me know when you're done, then we take it to step 2.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #25394
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EU regulations often make sense, for example a business in Belgium can make a product according to a single regulation, and they can sell it to the 500 million customers of the EU at once, instead of producing several variants for local regulations. This is especially important for small businesses which produce for niche markets that are often too small to cater to in a single country.
Yes, that's the main reason why I am pro-EU. However, it has nothing to do with EP itself.
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Old May 28th, 2014, 12:41 PM   #25395
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EU regulations often make sense, for example a business in Belgium can make a product according to a single regulation, and they can sell it to the 500 million customers of the EU at once, instead of producing several variants for local regulations. This is especially important for small businesses which produce for niche markets that are often too small to cater to in a single country.

However, there are many regulations that are better left to the countries. I think the EU has more conformity in law and regulations than the U.S. at some points.

The cost and expenditure of the EU should not be exaggerated though, the EU budget is only 1% of GDP.
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Escalated quickly
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Escalated quickly English dialogue starts in 5 second
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Old May 28th, 2014, 06:02 PM   #25399
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By the way, I was watching an Inspector Morse rerun last night, where Morse (for complicated reasons) is looking into a murder that took place in 1859 and we see scenes of the trial. One of the witnesses says "afore." (Actually, he doesn't say it clearly, but the lawyer who's questioning him repeats his words.) So that word existed in dialect that late.
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Good evening from Ohrid!
A little colder here then every place I was last days.

And driving in Albania
But people were friendly, besides the usual honking, nothing bad.
Even the police who stopped us somewhere on the SH3, chatted with us in Italian and wished us nice day.
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