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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:24 AM   #25541
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That 'Icelandic' guy from Norway?
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:28 AM   #25542
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Yes, but when's Italy going to restore its monarchy?
This is expressely forbidden by our constitution, issued in 1948. Until 2002, members of the Royal Family weren't even allowed to enter Italy.
Coincidence, today 2 June is the Republic Day, a civil festivity, since we voted for republic against monarchy on 2 June 1946.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:34 AM   #25543
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Not really. And because it was anti-Soviet (so was Romania) and had good relations with the West, nobody in the West saw it coming. When the West DID respond, it was already too late. They sent UN peacekeepers, but by then everybody lost the plot anyway.
Romania, unlikely Yugoslavia, was in the Warsaw Pact.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:45 AM   #25544
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Monarchy, schmonarchy.

Beatrix really started a trend, didn't she?

What happened - scandal, he just wants to retire...?

(And aren't there two or three long-serving monarchs in Scandinavia?)

PS: we do call him "Juan Carlos," not "John Charles."
so basically, same as Beatrix
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 01:52 AM   #25545
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This is expressely forbidden by our constitution, issued in 1948. Until 2002, members of the Royal Family weren't even allowed to enter Italy.
Coincidence, today 2 June is the Republic Day, a civil festivity, since we voted for republic against monarchy on 2 June 1946.
It's 3rd June. :P
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:26 AM   #25546
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According to Karl A. Sinnhuber Yugoslavia was in Central Europe. (oh, and Finland!)
Wait, Yugoslavia was in Finland? :-P

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It's 3rd June. :P
Depends where you are.... In Finland, or Jakarta, for example, it's the 3d. :-)
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:34 AM   #25547
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so basically, same as Beatrix
Did Beatrix ever go elephant-hunting?
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:41 AM   #25548
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Did Beatrix ever go elephant-hunting?
Not that I know of
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 08:46 AM   #25549
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Yes, but when's Italy going to restore its monarchy?
Why should we?
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 02:37 PM   #25550
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I was being facetious.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:10 PM   #25551
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Sorry, I used the term "Bosnia" only here for short. The name of Bosnia and Herzegovina was explained in its historical areas context. But students were completely confused when I told them, that BiH consists of two lands, but those are not Bosnia and Herzegovina, but Fed. of BiH and Republic Srpska
The country of Bosnia and Herzegovina is usually shortened to "Bosnia" in Dutch as well. It wouldn't surprise me if most people from outside the region would think Srpska is the name of Serbia. If people are aware that Bosnia and Herzegovina consists of two entities, they will probably think those to entities are Bosnia and Herzegovina, not Bosnia and Herzegovina and Srpska.

Another observation, a U.S. state is usually called a "staat" (state) in Dutch, but states of other countries are usually called a "deelstaat" or (sub state) as if U.S. is the only country in the world which has states.
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 03:40 PM   #25552
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It wouldn't surprise me if most people from outside the region would think Srpska is the name of Serbia.
I though the same sevaral years ago. And before 2008 events I though that Abkhazia was one of the many Russian autonomous region, like Chechnya, Daghestan, Tatarstan,... (I just read its name somewhere and never bothered to look at a map and find that it was inside official Georgian borders).
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Old June 3rd, 2014, 04:43 PM   #25553
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The country of Bosnia and Herzegovina is usually shortened to "Bosnia" in Dutch as well. It wouldn't surprise me if most people from outside the region would think Srpska is the name of Serbia. If people are aware that Bosnia and Herzegovina consists of two entities, they will probably think those to entities are Bosnia and Herzegovina, not Bosnia and Herzegovina and Srpska.

Another observation, a U.S. state is usually called a "staat" (state) in Dutch, but states of other countries are usually called a "deelstaat" or (sub state) as if U.S. is the only country in the world which has states.
Yeah, there is a strange exception in Slovak language since:

Serbian republic (Srbská republika) (rarely used) is the official long name of Serbia and
Republic of Srpska (Republika srbská - it goes against basic grammar rules) is the name of the entity within BiH.

Sub-state seems very logical. Here we use the name "state" (štát) or "country" (krajina). Sometimes it gets confusing, so adjective "constituent" is used (in Slovak federatívna). Example: Ukraine was constituent republic within the USSR.

As for USA, it is often referred as "America" for short, which I find wrong. The use of "States", which is IMHO much more correct, is really peculiar.
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Last year a guy from Bulgaria asked at Serbian section is it safe to drive through Republic of Srpska and does he have to give some money as a bribe at the border of Srpska and the rest of BIH. He thought that Republic of Srpska is some unrecognized breakaway republic like Transdnistria or South Ossetia!
History and geography should be more important subjects at schools anyway.
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Last year a guy from Bulgaria asked at Serbian section is it safe to drive through Republic of Srpska and does he have to give some money as a bribe at the border of Srpska and the rest of BIH. He thought that Republic of Srpska is some unrecognized breakaway republic like Transdnistria or South Ossetia!
History and geography should be more important subjects at schools anyway.
I don't know what is worse. If someone does not know about the existence of my country, or if has any, but very distorted knowledge like "do you have an electricity? do you have hot water?" etc
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As for USA, it is often referred as "America" for short, which I find wrong. The use of "States", which is IMHO much more correct, is really peculiar.
You mean in English?
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You mean in English?
In Slovak, but AFAIK it is that used also in English.
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What you say in Slovak is your business.

What we say in English is ours. :-P

(Seriously, I've had the "why do Etats-uniens insist on calling themselves Americans" argument so many times on French forums I'm sort of over it. Particularly since the same people have no problem whatsoever using "Europe" and "European" in a sense that leaves out Switzerland and Norway and.... [end soapbox mode])
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Another observation, a U.S. state is usually called a "staat" (state) in Dutch, but states of other countries are usually called a "deelstaat" or (sub state) as if U.S. is the only country in the world which has states.
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As for USA, it is often referred as "America" for short, which I find wrong. The use of "States", which is IMHO much more correct, is really peculiar.
I'm no history scholar, but I think that the original intent was that US states would be like independent countries. The central government would have very limited powers, mainly to provide a common defense and maintain good relations (commerce) between the states. Almost the way I see the EU today (without the defense part obviously). Over the years, the central government has developed more and more powers, and is now widely involved in just about every aspect of life in the states. This makes sense, because when the country started, the fastest form of transportation and communication was a horse and there was very limited interaction between the states. But with modern transportation and communication, the states are much more connected.

I also don't like to use the term "America" and normally will say "the US." It seems like saying America is dismissive of other countries in North and South America (although no one ever refers to this part of the world as America, it's North America, Central America, South America, or "the Americas"). The problem comes with describing a person or thing from the US. You really can't get around saying "American." "United States of American" obviously isn't going to work. Although the architect Frank Lloyd Wright came up with the term "Usonian" which I kind of like.
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I find we (Americans) tend to limit "America" and "American" to emotive, patriotic contexts. ("God Bless America!") I regularly hear Brits saying "America" in contexts where "U.S." would sound more natural to me. ("The U.S. government," for example.) But there's no alternative to "American" as a noun for the people of the U.S. (Alternatives suggested by Frank Lloyd Wright or anyone else don't count until native speakers actually adopt them.) And since the English-speaking world treats the Americas as two continents, "American" isn't ambiguous, as it is in, say, French.

And I have trouble accepting the "using American for the U.S. is disrespectful to Canadians" argument when Canadians themselves, of both official languages, use it routinely. Whether it's disrespectful to Latin Americans... well, I wouldn't do it in Spanish. If I ever used Spanish.
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