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Old June 19th, 2014, 02:35 PM   #25861
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Well, I don't think France is the most beautiful country in Europe. Why not? Because it's not my home country Home sweet home, right?
Yeah, i like FYROM too
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Old June 19th, 2014, 02:42 PM   #25862
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well, i`m not saying the US is the most beautiful country, but it certainly has everything compressed what nature has to offer in one place, which makes it quite unique

oceans, lakes, rivers, deserts, woods, mountains, planes, swamps, arctic/tropic climate etc...
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Old June 19th, 2014, 02:46 PM   #25863
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The U.S. is vast and very diverse. However, it's size means landscape is pretty montonous across large distances. For example the endless forests of the Southeast, or the prairies of the Midwest.

I've read many tourists underestimate the size of Florida. Once you've entered the state on I-95 at Jacksonville, it's another 350 miles to Miami and 500 miles to Key West, which is similar to the distance from Richmond, VA to Jacksonville.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 03:04 PM   #25864
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convincing argument....
Well, since beauty's subjective, it's as good an argument as any.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 03:49 PM   #25865
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Speaking of nice countries
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjkiebus/rea...s-you-for-life
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Old June 19th, 2014, 03:53 PM   #25866
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These "XX reasons etc etc" became a - quite annoying - thing in no time.

I saw a "15 reasons to support Italy soccer team": 7 of them were "because players look better", the other 8 "because players look better in photos"
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Old June 19th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #25867
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Maybe so.
For me, it just reminded me that I loved it to death in Italy every time and I can hardly wait to visit again
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #25868
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These "XX reasons etc etc" became a - quite annoying - thing in no time.

I saw a "15 reasons to support Italy soccer team": 7 of them were "because players look better", the other 8 "because players look better in photos"
We already know you find people who say nice things about Italy annoying, if not insincere.

Is there anything you're not negative and cynical about? I'm sorry to take you to task, but I actually find it a bit sad....

(Also, I have mayonnaise, but just a little, on most of my sandwiches. I mean, I know it wouldn't work with meatballs in meat sauce, but I never order that anyway. )
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:09 PM   #25869
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Guys there's no doubt the most beautiful country in Europe is Italy!
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:15 PM   #25870
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We already know you find people who say nice things about Italy annoying, if not insincere.

Is there anything you're not negative and cynical about? I'm sorry to take you to task, but I actually find it a bit sad....

(Also, I have mayonnaise, but just a little, on most of my sandwiches. I mean, I know it wouldn't work with meatballs in meat sauce, but I never order that anyway. )
It's not about Italy this time, I mentioned the soccer team just because it was the last - and stupidest - I found online.
I don't like the "XX reasons" format: I think it's full of cliches, be it about Italy, Germany, of the US. What I don't like most is that they itemize 40 points, but all of them are basically the same.

About being cynical: why wouldn't I be? I prefer to be cynical and lower my expectations about people, just to be positively surprised, than be open, warm and friendly and then be disappointed.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:26 PM   #25871
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Fair enough....
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #25872
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I think it's also a common thing for people to criticize and highlight the negatives of their country or city they live in and praise the positives of others, it happens to me too, regarding Romania
And as a tourist you always tend to remember the positives, and classify the negatives as part of the experience...
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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:41 PM   #25873
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Guys there's no doubt the most beautiful country in Europe is Italy!
Just don't drive from Gorizia to Torino.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 05:05 PM   #25874
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I think it's also a common thing for people to criticize and highlight the negatives of their country or city they live in and praise the positives of others, it happens to me too, regarding Romania
And as a tourist you always tend to remember the positives, and classify the negatives as part of the experience...
In The Mikado, the Lord High Executioner makes a list of people who wouldn't be missed. Among them:

"the idiot who praises, in enthusiastic tone, every century but this and every country but his own."
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Old June 19th, 2014, 07:29 PM   #25875
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In The Mikado, the Lord High Executioner makes a list of people who wouldn't be missed. Among them:

"the idiot who praises, in enthusiastic tone, every century but this and every country but his own."
This would mean that the present century, and your home country, can never be the worst one. Although improbable, it can happen. A 17th century guy from Nigeria could have said that and be no idiot...
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Well, they might be right; but no one would mind if they shut up about it. :-)
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #25877
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Care to elaborate?

France is a very nice country, but seems like a difficult place to live if you don't speak good French.

Learning the local language is the key to success. For example, almost everybody in the Netherlands speaks English, however, if you want to migrate and want to get a job that pays more than around the minimum wage, you absolutely have to learn the language.
The newer generation in France speak English. And it's the same to be said with for example Germany. I don't mind learning French properly to live in this beautiful country. Went to visit Utah Beach today, they certainly made an effort....
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:20 AM   #25878
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If you had the wrong looks in US, you needed this to take road trips to the hinterland well into the 1960s



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Source: teachingushistory.org

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A later edition, from the 1950s already

From H Ford collection online
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:24 AM   #25879
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I really like that last phrase, "there will come a day", well it did
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:45 AM   #25880
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It's really surprising now the word "negro", now derogatory, was commonly used in printed publications as late as in the 1950s (during Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks protests, few years before Kennedy presidency), in the same way we would write Afro-American today.
And this one doesn't even look like a racist publication, like it could be a KKK propaganda poster, but a text addressed to Afro-Americans to help them to "survive" in a openly racist society.

1776 Declaration of Independence:
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Reality:
Slavery until the 1860s, Indian wars until the 1890s, racial segregation until the 1960s, homosexuality prosecuted in some states until 2003.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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