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Old June 23rd, 2014, 06:58 PM   #25981
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Still, I'm not sure photographing people you don't know to present them as an anthropological curiosity is, well, quite nice.
As long as it's not in a clearly negative context, I don't see any problem. Taking pictures with the purpose of using them to insult/defame/hate on people is very rude, but just showing pictures or using them as illustrative examples I see no problem with. A picture is worth a 1000 words, like the saying goes.

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Over here, the Amish generally ask tourists not to take pictures of them because their religion prohibits being photographed (the same ban on "images" that also shows up in stricter forms of Judaism and Islam); would you respect that?
If I was in an establishment of theirs, I would. Otherwise, no. The same applies to all religions I'd say. You repect the rules of the church while in a church, like taking your hat off, but if a religious person told me (because of their belief) to stop doing something in the street I couldn't care less.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 07:09 PM   #25982
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So now your gypsies arrived here, why dont they beg in their home countries ?
Because no one gives them money because it's a well-known fact that they aren't genuine beggars but professional organizations.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 07:38 PM   #25983
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In the U.S.: "black" or "African-American."
oh, i knew that you would mention African-American thing. but that is for american blackmen. for people from Botswana you say only "black" then? i thought that you found that term rude
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 07:59 PM   #25984
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I didn't say "black" was rude. I wouldn't have said that, because it's the term I use (and the term most black people I know use). And I limited my answer to the U.S. because it's the context I'm most familiar with.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:09 PM   #25985
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Come to think of it, I'd never take a picture of anyone without their permission, apart from crowd shots....
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:15 PM   #25986
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In the Netherlands we have 'portrait rights' which means you can't just take a photo of someone without permission, except when it's not the focus of a photo (for example a street or crowd scene).
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:17 PM   #25987
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Well as long as the person doesn't see you
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:25 PM   #25988
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Still, I'm not sure photographing people you don't know to present them as an anthropological curiosity is, well, quite nice. There are countries (at least one) that ban Google Street View on the grounds that showing the exterior of people's houses is an invasion of privacy. I personally don't agree with that, but that shows that the sentiment is out there. And people on this forum routinely obscure people's license plate numbers. If photographing a house or a car would be an invasion of privacy, surely photographing the actual person would be. Over here, the Amish generally ask tourists not to take pictures of them because their religion prohibits being photographed (the same ban on "images" that also shows up in stricter forms of Judaism and Islam); would you respect that?
I would not know. What would you make of National Geographic or Life then? The basic rule should be. If people make it clear they don't want to be photographed you should not do it and you should erase the pictures. In some cases even so the public interest would weight over the privacy. Of course photos that are showing people in humiliating positions, or photos of minors deserve special treatment.

As about Google, there might be other concerns than just privacy of the photos. It is the combination of other information available to Google together wit the photos that makes it especially dangerous and prone to misuse. But Google should and respects your right for privacy - if you require photos that invade your privacy removed, then they have to be removed.

The same holds for private photos when they are made public. Once the photographed would required the photos removed from the public space, you would have to do it.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:32 PM   #25989
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What's the Dutch for "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!"?

Edit: this doesn't mean there's been one. Just curious.
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In the Netherlands we have 'portrait rights' which means you can't just take a photo of someone without permission, except when it's not the focus of a photo (for example a street or crowd scene).
I am not sure, but I guess also in the Netherlands there is something called journalistic license. With the Internet and electronic media that brought in self made journalism, this became rather broad and undefined area though...

One could easily argue that photos for a blog fulfill the purpose of informing and producing news, which give right for making photos even without the consent of those concerned.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:33 PM   #25991
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What's the Dutch for "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!"?

Edit: this doesn't mean there's been one. Just curious.
GOOOAAAAAAAAL

Or 'doelpunt' if you want to take the original Dutch word, but we just shout GOAL cause it's shorter
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:36 PM   #25992
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I found "doelpunt" but I figured it would be hard to shout like that. But does anyone say DOEOEOEOEOEOEOEOEOEL?
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What's the Dutch for "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!"?

Edit: this doesn't mean there's been one. Just curious.
I guess here is the TV signal some 10 minutes late :O.

"Doelpunt" . I did not yet hear anyone to shout out: Doeeeeeeelpunt. I guess I heard Gooooaaal instead .
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:38 PM   #25994
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In Hungary making such photos is clearly forbidden. And it is not only publishing which is forbbiden, but making the photo as well.
Edit: it's for the 'gipsy' photos of Voloda.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:39 PM   #25995
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I found "doelpunt" but I figured it would be hard to shout like that. But does anyone say DOEOEOEOEOEOEOEOEOEL?
No, we just shout GOOOOOAAAAAL

Doel is basically the net you shoot it into, a doelpunt is a goal.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 08:39 PM   #25996
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Talking of, you've got one. If you didn't know that already.
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I noticed the Dutch media is moving away from English terms in football. For example, a 'corner' is a hoekschop and a 'goal' is a doelpunt. When I was a teen everybody was talking about a corner and a goal, not hoekschop and doelpunt.
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Talking of, you've got one. If you didn't know that already.
Yep

Watching here on tv with laptop on the side
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 10:07 PM   #25999
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How horrible, someone is using their right to film or photograph whatever they want.
Whatever they want? Or whoever they want?
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 10:30 PM   #26000
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Whatever they want? Or whoever they want?
Does it matter? In Sweden at least the rule of thumb is you may photograph anything or anyone. There are exceptions of course, like military installations or in someone's private home. It must be clearly stated though. I don't know what the rest of Europe or the World for that matter is like in this respect, but Sweden probably has one of the most liberal laws regarding photography.
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