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Old July 2nd, 2014, 03:47 AM   #26321
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Hey! Leave my cat out of this!
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 03:48 AM   #26322
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Penalty shootouts are an option after an extra 30 min of play!

"Sudden death", also known as "golden goal", was used by FIFA between 1998 and 2004. The rules were simple: after regular time, teams would come to extra-time, the first to score won the match. If after 90min no one scored, then they'd have penalty shootouts.

What FIFA wanted: to reduce the overall number of matches going to be decided on penalties shooting scores, perceived as semi-random.

What FIFA got: ultra-defensive tactics for extra-time, with neither of teams involved risking much. The proportion of matches with draws on regular time that ended on shootouts actually increased.

FIFA then ended the practice.
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Now imagine living in a small city where the supermaket also closes during mid-afternoon, or where other businesses are still following a 1950 logic where women don't work and have all their daytime free to shop on short opening hours. Additionally, consider the bizarre idea of whole line of businesses closing off for 2 periods a week on each city
The day I was in Florence, it was closed. (Well, everything interesting like the Uffizi was.) I'm not joking. If memory serves, it was a Wednesday. In 1986.

Actually, there's an old joke: "I went to Philadelphia one Sunday, and it was closed." But it wouldn't work today.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 03:50 AM   #26323
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Does that mean you race your cat??

But (s)he's probably a bad influence: cats are evil.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 04:03 AM   #26324
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"Sudden death", also known as "golden goal", was used by FIFA between 1998 and 2004. The rules were simple: after regular time, teams would come to extra-time, the first to score won the match. If after 90min no one scored, then they'd have penalty shootouts.
Wasn't it 30 min like now? I can't imagine 3 hours of football.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 04:11 AM   #26325
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Wasn't it 30 min like now? I can't imagine 3 hours of football.
2x15 minutes yes. But it's not 'Golden Goal'. It's just 30 minutes of extra 'regular' play. And if it's still tied after that the penalties start.

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Does that mean you race your cat??
I wouldn't be able to win that
I came up with the name about 8-9 years ago when we just had the cat. There was a racing game (I can't even remember which one it was) where I needed to put a username. I came up with Keokiracer. Ever since that moment I've always used that name

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But (s)he's probably a bad influence: cats are evil.
Nah, Keoki is just weird
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 04:24 AM   #26326
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2x15 minutes yes. But it's not 'Golden Goal'. It's just 30 minutes of extra 'regular' play. And if it's still tied after that the penalties start.
I know all that, I'm asking, wasn't it 30 min and not 90 min?
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 04:27 AM   #26327
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I know all that, I'm asking, wasn't it 30 min and not 90 min?
Ah, misunderstood you then.

A quick look at Wikipedia tells me that it was indeed 2x15 minutes in sudden death/golden goal as well.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:12 PM   #26328
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How would you solve this intersection in your country? (just want to find out whether the basic traffic rules are similar)
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:21 PM   #26329
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Priority to the right
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:28 PM   #26330
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Well, but there is also a priority of the vehicles in opposite direction when you are turning left. Is not it?
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:48 PM   #26331
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How would you solve this intersection in your country? (just want to find out whether the basic traffic rules are similar)

There are two possibilities, i would say
1. if road is wide enough red car goes first and stops in the middle of the road/intersection. Then goes green car , and then blue one, and the last one who leaves the intersection is red car which is turning left.
2. if road/ intersection is not wide enough then red car must wait for a green car to pass through (out of courtesy even though the red car has priority) and then again as in the previous example, blue one, and the last one who leaves the intersection is red car which is turning left, (red car must wait in the middle of the crossroads for a blue car to pass through intersection first because blue car is driving straight ahead and red car is turning left).
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 01:55 PM   #26332
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Well, but there is also a priority of the vehicles in opposite direction when you are turning left. Is not it?
Assuming that, then the green car would go first followed by the blue car and then the red car would be allowed to turn.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 02:10 PM   #26333
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Assuming that, then the green car would go first followed by the blue car and then the red car would be allowed to turn.
The official answer to this intersection is little bit tricky:
1. Since there is the priority to the right, red car goes first. But due to the priority of the vehicles approaching in the opposite direction, it just enters the intersection and stop in the middle of it to give opposite direction a way.
2. Then the green goes followed by blue.
3. Finally, the red car completes the turning.

It is nice but the intersection must be wide enough. So Broccolli was right :-)

But otherwise, if I would be the red car, I would carefully finish the manoeuvre to avoid standing in the way.
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By putting up a traffic light.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 02:57 PM   #26335
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Usually you won't find such cases that often and where you do, cars don't drive fast on those streets. In the end it's a matter of ad hoc understanding between the drivers
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 02:58 PM   #26336
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By putting up a traffic light.
Or, in Europe, a roundabout (tearing the buildings down first).
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 03:02 PM   #26337
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Or a four-way stop. Stop signs in the Netherlands are usually used for traffic calming purposes, it's rarely necessary to come to a full stop in order to safely cross another road or bicycle path.

For most people in the Netherlands, a STOP sign means 'proceed with caution', instead of 'come to a full stop at all times'. For example, pretty much nobody stops here if there are no cyclists coming.
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Usually you won't find such cases that often and where you do, cars don't drive fast on those streets. In the end it's a matter of ad hoc understanding between the drivers
Seriously, Philadelphia's chock full of uncontrolled intersections (or ones where everyone has a stop sign)... but only, in my experience, between two one-way streets.
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I've just found out that EU citizens can go to Georgia (the country) for 360 days with an ID only. That's pretty cool.
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For most people in the Netherlands, a STOP sign means 'proceed with caution', instead of 'come to a full stop at all times'. For example, pretty much nobody stops here if there are no cyclists coming.
I remember having a discussion about this "proceed with caution". Would you know if the police ever checks whether people stop?
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