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Old July 2nd, 2014, 05:14 PM   #26341
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Or a four-way stop. Stop signs in the Netherlands are usually used for traffic calming purposes, it's rarely necessary to come to a full stop in order to safely cross another road or bicycle path.

For most people in the Netherlands, a STOP sign means 'proceed with caution', instead of 'come to a full stop at all times'. For example, pretty much nobody stops here if there are no cyclists coming.
Stopping on stop sign is considered very strictly in my country. Once you don't stop, you will pay fine. Remembering my visit in Greece. They have stop signs on motorway merging lanes Almost caused an accident when I saw it first.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:15 PM   #26342
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Just need one more person there - in the spot that's not currently occupied - and everyone could sit there yielding to the person to their right until the end of time. :-)
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:21 PM   #26343
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Just need one more person there - in the spot that's not currently occupied - and everyone could sit there yielding to the person to their right until the end of time. :-)
As my driving instructor used to say. In a lockdown like that, f you're the last to arrive: just drive on (with extra caution of course), if you stop you're only going to make things worse.
And if the 4th person actually stops, it basically comes down to who of the 4 has the biggest balls and just goes.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 07:28 PM   #26344
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Same here :-) But actually, I have never been in such situation...
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 08:08 PM   #26345
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As my driving instructor used to say. In a lockdown like that, f you're the last to arrive: just drive on (with extra caution of course), if you stop you're only going to make things worse.
And if the 4th person actually stops, it basically comes down to who of the 4 has the biggest balls and just goes.
Chinese/Italian style ...not possible in Slovenia though, because of the low driving culture of slovene drivers.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 08:47 PM   #26346
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Just need one more person there - in the spot that's not currently occupied - and everyone could sit there yielding to the person to their right until the end of time. :-)
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As my driving instructor used to say. In a lockdown like that, f you're the last to arrive: just drive on (with extra caution of course), if you stop you're only going to make things worse.
And if the 4th person actually stops, it basically comes down to who of the 4 has the biggest balls and just goes.
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Same here :-) But actually, I have never been in such situation...
That's why we have yield and priority signs to use.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:09 PM   #26347
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I'd love to see this in Europe. I believe there are similar signs in the UK (slow traffic use layby or something?)


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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:13 PM   #26348
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That's why we have yield and priority signs to use.
Or - as already suggested - traffic lights.

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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:17 PM   #26349
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I'd love to see this in Europe. I believe there are similar signs in the UK (slow traffic use layby or something?)

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unfortunately, here even ban of overpassing for heavy vehicles between 7 and 19h on frequent motorways doesn't work
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:18 PM   #26350
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I'd love to see this in Europe. I believe there are similar signs in the UK (slow traffic use layby or something?)


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It is mandatory in some European countries. However, seen this applied very rarely. The same goes for overtaking prohibition for 3,5t over vehicles on motorways.
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:28 PM   #26352
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I'd love to see this in Europe. I believe there are similar signs in the UK (slow traffic use layby or something?)


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I wonder how many Germans and tractors would pull over in Mayrhofen when this regulation becomes mandatory in Austria.

I haven't seen anything like this in England, however, in Scotland there are lots of signs advising slow moving vehicles to allow faster traffic to overtake as delays causes aggression. (on single carriageways only)
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:49 PM   #26353
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I guess you first need a infrastructure that would allow safe pullouts. It could be doable on those N roads in NL where you see often a parking bay.

Also what about when the slow vehicle would pull out and then before it would get running again, it would have a train of five vehicles behind.

And how would you define slow on 80 km/h roads...
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 10:54 PM   #26354
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Stopping on stop sign is considered very strictly in my country. Once you don't stop, you will pay fine. Remembering my visit in Greece. They have stop signs on motorway merging lanes Almost caused an accident when I saw it first.
Also in Italy, the stop sign is used only where you need to stop. In other places, this sign is used:
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Old July 2nd, 2014, 11:14 PM   #26355
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Same in Spain.

Speaking of signs, here is one I'd like to see :


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Old July 3rd, 2014, 12:37 AM   #26356
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One thing UK drivers have a problem with when driving abroad is uncontrolled intersections. In the UK, one road is nearly always chosen to be the 'major' road, even if the two roads are both minor, so you don't have to worry about priority from the right.

Stop signs are rare in the UK. If you see a Stop sign then you know that the junction is particularly dangerous.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 01:13 AM   #26357
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How would you solve this intersection in your country? (just want to find out whether the basic traffic rules are similar)
Here they would put a STOP sign on all 4 legs, and the one to stop first would go. Except nobody stops 100% as it is idiotic, normally passing instead at 15-20 km/h and sometimes, the police are waiting and hungry The ticket is the same as running a red light.

I've had that situation where two other drivers are too polite and want to let the other one go first. I usually come up and then floor the gas, chirp tires and go first, laughing maniacally
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 04:04 AM   #26358
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How would you solve this intersection in your country? (just want to find out whether the basic traffic rules are similar)
The green car goes first, since it is to the right of the blue car.

Because the red car is turning left, it gives way to the blue car, which is traveling straight through the intersection.

After the blue car has cleared the intersection, the red car turns left, but only after the driver has checked to make sure it is safe to do so.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 07:38 AM   #26359
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How would you solve this intersection in your country? (just want to find out whether the basic traffic rules are similar)
The typical deadlock situation where everyone has to yield. The bravest goes first.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 11:26 AM   #26360
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What I found weird in UK is that they do not have the yield sign before the roundabouts, but just the roundabout itself.

2 days ago I drove for the first time in UK for about 250 km and it was weird. Yesterday I drove again and today once more. I already got used to it and it's quite ok... I just have to be a little bit more careful. What I found quite hard to do is to park the car, as all the parking spaces are quite narrow and I'm not used with the car dimensions from the right seat.
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