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Old August 25th, 2014, 01:49 AM   #27261
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I have noticed that ice bucket challenge is getting very popular in Serbia.What about other country's?
In Italy is very popular.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #27262
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I have noticed that ice bucket challenge is getting very popular in Serbia.What about other country's?
In Hungary everyone does it. However, the original purpose, getting attention to ALS, is absolutely forgotten, nobody talks about that disease or any other charity action about it. It's simply a cool thing to dump yourself.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 01:42 PM   #27263
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I've heard the best reply for not doing this yesterday:

1) The ALS attention is gone, it's just about being cool and part of a hype
2) Instead of dumping a bucket of money, donate a bucket of money..
3) all the water we're wasting with this challenge is a insult to country's who suffer drought
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Old August 25th, 2014, 05:10 PM   #27264
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Brrr, another summer day with a high of 15 °C. This weather is more appropriate in October.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #27265
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When I woke up today, the heating in my apartment was turned on It cuts in when the room temperature drops bellow 23°C, which usually occur in early October.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 05:41 PM   #27266
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When I woke up today, the heating in my apartment was turned on It cuts in when the room temperature drops bellow 23°C, which usually occur in early October.
Are you allowed to turn on heat in the summer? In Italy, in general, we aren't: every municipality is given a code, according to which heating can be turned on in different times of the year. There are six classes (from A to F) according to the amount of degree days of that specific town.
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A class towns can turn the heat on only between 1st December and 15th March; F class towns can all year long
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Old August 25th, 2014, 06:04 PM   #27267
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Are you allowed to turn on heat in the summer? In Italy, in general, we aren't: every municipality is given a code, according to which heating can be turned on in different times of the year. There are six classes (from A to F) according to the amount of degree days of that specific town.
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A class towns can turn the heat on only between 1st December and 15th March; F class towns can all year long
It works similar way here. But in houses/apartment we have three different types of heating:
- provided by heating plant
- provided by local boiler room
- provided by local heating

The first one is a building with lots of boilers heating the water that runs to heating system. Usually, entire streets are connected to that system. It is pretty much common in cities. It also heats water that runs to plumbing. The heating season starts after three days with local high lower than 13°C. Inhabitants of apartments in such houses pay heating plant companies for providing heat according to the values from special measure unit.

The second one is an apartment house with a room where boilers are situated. One of them usually works all day long and heat water for plumbing, others starts when a competent (usually elected) person from owners turns the heating on. The boilers are usually gas boilers and therefore the sooner in year it starts, the higher invoices inhabitants get. The heating season usually depends on internal agreement.

The last one is often in case of villas or older apartment house. Each dwelling is equipped by boiler and the owner of the apartment controls it by him/herself. Sometimes it is powered by pellets, wood, electric power or gas. The more you heat, the more you pay for energies.

My apartment is the last one, so if I set the requested room temperature to 35°C in the middle of July, my boiler turns on and starts to heat I've got set it to 23°C (from 5 AM to 22 PM)/ 22°C (22PM - 5AM) all day long.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #27268
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I wasn't really referring to the ability of turning the heat on, but to the legality of that. I can turn the heat on whenever I like, but if they find out I did that outside the terms I may get a fine.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 06:35 PM   #27269
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3) all the water we're wasting with this challenge is a insult to country's who suffer drought
this is stupid. water is circulating in enviroments.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 07:10 PM   #27270
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I wasn't really referring to the ability of turning the heat on, but to the legality of that. I can turn the heat on whenever I like, but if they find out I did that outside the terms I may get a fine.
In addition to that, our law sets the temperature to 20 ºC, with 1 degree tolerance. So 23 degrees would be too high
However, most of the older central heatings don't have a proper regulation system and you get higher temperatures in your home.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #27271
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I wasn't really referring to the ability of turning the heat on, but to the legality of that. I can turn the heat on whenever I like, but if they find out I did that outside the terms I may get a fine.
That is interesting... Never heard of a similar law anywhere.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 08:43 PM   #27272
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In my flat I haven't had 23°C for at least ten days...
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #27273
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This morning there my car showed 4°C when going to work. Heating was turned on during the night.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #27274
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Are you allowed to turn on heat in the summer? In Italy, in general, we aren't: every municipality is given a code, according to which heating can be turned on in different times of the year. There are six classes (from A to F) according to the amount of degree days of that specific town.
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A class towns can turn the heat on only between 1st December and 15th March; F class towns can all year long
Aaaargh... We have all sorts of funny regulations, but nobody has invented that.

Is a modern device called "thermostat" unknown in Italy? That device cuts off the heating at a predefined temperature, thus avoiding excessive spending of energy.

We arrived at our leisure-time home a few days ago. The inside temperature was +17 and I turned the heating on because of the humidity. The cut-off temperature is +21. The total heating capacity is 5.6 kW and the consumption log shows the current average usage being 0.4 kW approx. Thus, the thermostats are in order. The outside temperature has varied from +8 (night) to +17 (day).
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:32 PM   #27275
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Aaaargh... We have all sorts of funny regulations, but nobody has invented that.

Is a modern device called "thermostat" unknown in Italy? That device cuts off the heating at a predefined temperature, thus avoiding excessive spending of energy.
I don't think this is funny at all, and no need of sarcasm. Of course thermostats are widespread in Italy... Thermostats are still responding to human control, though. Resources like methane and coal are scarce and they have to be used wisely. Paying for them is not enough: I may be rich and careless and waste tons of fuel just because I feel like it, even in summer, wasting forever something that can be put aside and used when it's really necessary.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #27276
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I wasn't really referring to the ability of turning the heat on, but to the legality of that. I can turn the heat on whenever I like, but if they find out I did that outside the terms I may get a fine.
There is no law for that. We have some obligations like annual chimney check, boiler check once in two years, etc. but if I feel cold, I can turn the heating on even in summer.

I have quite modern system (Buderus Logamax 152GB with remote control in my living room) built in 2008. It knows equithermics (can calculate how hot the water in system must be to reach the desired room temperature) and the temperature can be set very preciously.

Unfortunately I live in old apartment house with very bad thermoisolation attributes and I have serious problem with moulds on walls. If I set the temperature under 23°C the apartment is very cold and moulds emerge.
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:49 PM   #27277
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Old August 25th, 2014, 10:51 PM   #27278
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Unfortunately I live in old apartment house with very bad thermoisolation attributes and I have serious problem with moulds on walls. If I set the temperature under 23°C the apartment is very cold and moulds emerge.
And the moulds may make you incurably sick. That is why keeping the homes cold and humid seldom is wise.
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Speaking of heating - I just found out that I have a leaking pipe from central heating. It is not yet critical but repair must be done before actual heating begins. As I live in modestly sized apartment block, repairing it will be fun.
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