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Old October 31st, 2014, 09:32 PM   #28421
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I pay nothing for that.
Who does then?
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Old October 31st, 2014, 10:22 PM   #28422
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Who does then?
People who got an actual real job.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 10:35 PM   #28423
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I pay nothing for that. The only money they cut from my salary (10% more or less) is for the retirement pension.
Interesting.
From my gross salary I pay approx:
20% income tax
22% retirement fund
6,5% health fund

and my employer pays over my gross salary 16% extra for social services.
So in sum I get around 50% from what my employer pays. My payment is quite above average though.
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Old October 31st, 2014, 11:58 PM   #28424
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Not much. Below average.
If i am not making a mistake, the average net wage in Italy is 1800 euros?
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Old November 1st, 2014, 01:50 AM   #28425
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If i am not making a mistake, the average net wage in Italy is 1800 euros?
Noooo, much lower.
Average net wage in Italy has been 1327€ in 2013.

Then I have to say my salary is sliiiiigthly higher.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:12 AM   #28426
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?? it is supposed to be around 1900€ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...y_average_wage
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Old November 1st, 2014, 03:19 AM   #28427
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Okay, here's a topic: just saw in Le Monde that Canada has closed its borders to people from the countries most affected by Ebola. Which countries those are isn't specified (the talk here has been Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea). No requests for visas will be processed for citizens of those countries, or for people who've been in them in the last three months. Says Australia's already taken the same step.

http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/planete/ar...6423_3244.html
(Try changing the "abonnes" in that link to "www"; when I try it it just switches back)

There was a flurry of demands in the US a couple of weeks ago to stop direct flights from those countries, but apparently there aren't any and the White House, the World Health Organization and so on are concerned it would do more harm than good.

Discuss.

Verso, I didn't put this in Border Crossings because I knew you wouldn't be happy with that. :-)
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Old November 1st, 2014, 10:44 AM   #28428
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the company where i work used to collaborate with Guinea about 2-3 years ago, i remember visits of people from there in weird, but cool clothes in various colours that look like silk togas
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:06 PM   #28429
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?? it is supposed to be around 1900€ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...y_average_wage
No way.
Wikipedia is not to be taken seriously. I opened the links regardin Italy but I didn't find any information, nor the 1900€ figure.

I found mine here:
http://www.repubblica.it/economia/20...iani-95640424/
and also here:
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2014...-mese/1119792/
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:17 PM   #28430
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?? it is supposed to be around 1900€ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...y_average_wage
I should go to work abroad...
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:24 PM   #28431
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Nobody gets that kind of wage in Italy... not as a employee, anyway.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 02:30 PM   #28432
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Nobody gets that kind of wage in Italy... not as a employee, anyway.
I know... there are 3 grades of lying: lies, more serious lies and statistics.

I live in the 4th richest region in post 2004 EU Because of GDP of all the companies that have HQ here.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 03:15 PM   #28433
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1 November 2014: 20 °C in the Netherlands
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Old November 1st, 2014, 03:28 PM   #28434
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We were up to almost 30ºC until a few days ago .
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Old November 1st, 2014, 05:33 PM   #28435
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I know... there are 3 grades of lying: lies, more serious lies and statistics.

I live in the 4th richest region in post 2004 EU Because of GDP of all the companies that have HQ here.
For income statistics it should be used the median instead of the average.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 05:41 PM   #28436
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Media headlines need to be fascinating....
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Old November 1st, 2014, 06:27 PM   #28437
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We were up to almost 30ºC until a few days ago .
So I turn on the Weather Channel just now and the first thing I see is a meteorologist standing in what looks like a blizzard and the headline "Snow seen as far south as Columbia, South Carolina." The blizzard (not really) was at a ski resort in North Carolina which is planning, thanks to this, to open tomorrow. We then get a report from Chicago featuring 21-foot (something short of 7 meters) waves on Lake Michigan yesterday...Lake Shore Drive was flooded at one point.

Here, 47F/8C at 11 a.m.; forecast high 49/9. 15- to 25-mph (25- to 40ish? km/h) winds expected all day, and rain. I hate a cold rain more than any other weather, possibly. But I'm getting over a cold so I'm staying in. It was warm enough early this week that I had lunch outside (a friend's idea) two days running, and I'm wondering if I can blame said friend for my cold.

And we change the clocks tonight. November may be my least favorite month - I hate the dark evenings even more than cold weather, so if I had to choose between a year of Novembers and a year of Februaries, I'd take the Februaries.

Enjoy the nice weather while it lasts!
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The temperature maxed out at 22 ºC At many weather stations this was the warmest November day ever recorded.

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Old November 1st, 2014, 07:01 PM   #28439
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Hence the "tropical vegetation" that appears, or used to, as a tag on the Belgium thread here!
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Old November 1st, 2014, 07:06 PM   #28440
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Don't talk to me about tags... We used to be able to add tags as well, but this little feast is now reserved for mods only. And some of them must have been drinking heavily...
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