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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #28501
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I used to think of -ise/-isation as the British spelling in words like that (because Americans always use Z), but I think it's more complicated than that. I'll look up Fowler* when I get home. After I've voted.

*http://www.amazon.com/Fowlers-Modern.../dp/0198610211
We should ask suburbanist Thank you in advance btw.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #28502
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I think Fowler recommends Z even though lots of Brits prefer S. And he was writing 90 years ago. But that's what I want to double-check.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:02 AM   #28503
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definitely a bad name
Like a goat :saaaaad and maaaaaaaaan
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Old November 5th, 2014, 12:48 AM   #28504
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I think Fowler recommends Z even though lots of Brits prefer S. And he was writing 90 years ago. But that's what I want to double-check.
Fowler (who was writing mainly for a British audience) does recommend Z and says the Oxford and Cambridge university presses and The Times all prefer it.

Collins' English Dictionary, which is also basically a British one, says Z is "preferred," S "also acceptable."

But this is for verbs where the -ize is the one originating in Greek. "Surprise" and "advise," for example, are always spelled with S because they have nothing to do with that.

We could, of course, ask our Brits to weigh in....
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:09 AM   #28505
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Thank you very much for that.

Btw. how was the vote?
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:13 AM   #28506
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Took about three minutes. No wait, and I knew how I wanted to vote.

Today it's the whole House of Representatives, a third of the Senate (no Senate seat in Pennsylvania this time); governors in most states (including Pennsylvania); state legislatures in many states (lower house in Pennsylvania). Philadelphia ballot also included amendments to the city charter and a "bond issue" - authority to the city to borrow money for particular things.

Polls close in Pennsylvania at 8 p.m. my time - 2 a.m. in most of Europe.
The most suspense nationally is in who will control the Senate; the governor's race is important here as well.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #28507
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My friend in Kentucky invited me to vote, because even dead people can vote-- apparently.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:19 AM   #28508
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Close Senate race there.

There is an old saying in Chicago: "vote early, vote often."

But how do you spell urbani[s/z]ation?
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #28509
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Urbanisation. My British spell checker has excepted it. Urbanization: My British spell checker likes America.

Labor, Color is contraband though.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:24 AM   #28510
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I am just curious. Do the politicians in US change their effort as the upcoming elections are getting closer? Because we have communal elections here in two weeks and politicians are elected for 4 year terms. All out of them were like sleeping for the first three years and now, whole city is under construction, there is roadwork in every street, no mention freshly purchased trams have arrived to the city. Sometimes I wish there should be shorter terms and elections annually.
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I thought the opposite: urbanization for UK and urbanisation for US. Nice to know it's viceversa-ish
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:28 AM   #28512
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I am just curious. Do the politicians in US change their effort as the upcoming elections are getting closer? Because we have communal elections here in two weeks and politicians are elected for 4 year terms. All out of them were like sleeping for the first three years and now, whole city is under construction, there is roadwork in every street, no mention freshly purchased trams have arrived to the city. Sometimes I wish there should be shorter terms and elections annually.
I think politicians are politicians, no matter the country.
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I thought the opposite: urbanization for UK and urbanisation for US. Nice to know it's viceversa-ish
US has "izms" as where the UK uses "isms".

US: Authorized
UK: Authorised.

But there are some other differences as well:

US: Trash can
UK: Rubbish bin

US: Trunk
UK: Boot

US: Color, Labor
UK: Colour, Labour

US: Hood
UK: Bonnet

US: Fries
UK: Chips

I am sure there are loads more, these were just a few out of the top of my head...
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:36 AM   #28514
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US has "izms" as where the UK uses "isms".

US: Authorized
UK: Authorised.

But there are some other differences as well:

US: Trash can
UK: Rubbish bin

US: Trunk
UK: Boot

US: Color, Labor
UK: Colour, Labour

US: Hood
UK: Bonnet

US: Fries
UK: Chips

I am sure there are loads more, these were just a few out of the top of my head...
US: Truck
UK: Lorry

(right?)
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:41 AM   #28515
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US: Truck
UK: Lorry

(right?)
I'd say US: Semi / 18-wheeler

Truck is usually used when talking about a pick-up truck.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #28516
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True but could go either way... like if you are shipping something "by truck", or a "truck driver"
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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:50 AM   #28517
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and double l (small L) in some derived words: travel(l)er, label(l)ed...
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US: Truck
UK: Lorry

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That's right. Lorry-driver vs truck-driver.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 03:20 AM   #28519
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US has "izms" as where the UK uses "isms".
Not true.
(Can't even take a nap around here....)
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Old November 5th, 2014, 03:24 AM   #28520
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isms are always isms, and there are more Brits named Izzy
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