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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #29341
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Ok, no laughing this time:
Still don't get it. It's just a small piece of harmless information...
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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:51 PM   #29342
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As a countermeasure, we call a part of Italy "Venetian Slovenia".
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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:52 PM   #29343
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You can do whatever you please.
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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:55 PM   #29344
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Let's go back to the incentres:
The geographical incentre of Serbia with Kosovo is in the village of Nadrlje, 24 km south of Kragujevac, 111 km away from the borders of Romania (southern tip of the Danube's Moldova Veche island), Montenegro (Ibar river near the Bać-Špiljani border crossing) and Bosnia and Herzegovina (Drina river in the village of Petriča). But it's only 60 km from the Kosovo border/"border" (Pančić peak). As for Serbia without Kosovo, I'll do further research, but it's located northwest of Kragujevac and it's about 90 km distant from the borders.
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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:59 PM   #29345
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I tried with Serbia (with Kosovo) as well, but I'm not sure whether the incircle touches Bosnia or Bulgaria, it's pretty much the same.
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Old December 11th, 2014, 11:08 PM   #29346
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As a countermeasure, we call a part of Italy "Venetian Slovenia".
Really?
Is Venice part of it? Please, please, please!!!
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Old December 11th, 2014, 11:21 PM   #29347
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lol, unfortunately not

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavia_Friulana

Slavia friulana (Venetian Slovenia) is a region in alpine foothills close to the border. There is slovene ethic group, who lived for years under Venetian republic, from whom it benefited some autonomy, so when this area came under Napoleon and Austria, in 1866 they chose on referendum that they want to go back to Venetian republic (or Italy).
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Old December 11th, 2014, 11:56 PM   #29348
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Italy, Austria and Serbia have the same incircle radius
Lithuania and Czech Republic have almost the same as those three
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:00 AM   #29349
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Italian wikipedia has two entries:

- Italia
- Italia (regione geografica)

Maybe the latter would be better called "Regione geografica italiana".
It's easier for us:
-Olaszország
-Itália
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:10 AM   #29350
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The Vipava (Vipacco) Valley is apparently.

The Italian peninsula is only the dark-green area.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:13 AM   #29351
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Every term is made up by someone.
Still, this is something commonly taught in Italian schools, for quite a long time. No political revanchism: just a geographical thing.
Sure, I believe it is taught in the Italian schools. Maybe it is being taught just in the Italian schools though?

Aside from that, it seems to me to be a geographical nonsense... i.e. a made up term.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:17 AM   #29352
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Sure, I believe it is taught in the Italian schools. Maybe it is being taught just in the Italian schools though?
The names of Slovenian regions or the number of French departments are only taught in their respective countries: this doesn't mean they don't exist or are "made up". It's just uninteresting for everyone else.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #29353
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Why?

My head. I only wanted a couple of beers last night, ended up clearing out a brewery. And these additional rounds of schnapps didn't help neither...
Know that feeling bro, I was at Christmas Fair yesterday and drunk several incompatible sweet sweet sweet drinks (hot red wine, sweet wine, amareto punch).

But, at least, I've realized why is punch called punch. I really felt like I had had some punches when I woke up today . I must have looked horrible, because even street news vendor (beggar) left me out while begging.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:34 AM   #29354
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I liked Bratislava Christmas market. I was there 2 years ago.
It was much cheaper then Vienna, far less tourists, more authentic and local
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Old December 12th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #29355
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I don't like the plastic cups everywhere (comparing to neighbouring cities where you get a regular ceramic one for deposit). How Am I supposed to hold the hot punch filled up in crappy plastic cup (especially if I've already had three)?
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The names of Slovenian regions or the number of French departments are only taught in their respective countries: this doesn't mean they don't exist or are "made up". It's just uninteresting for everyone else.
As far as I recollect the geographical terms are stemming either from physical geography as e.g. geomorphology - thus Apennines peninsula. Or from human geography, such as political geography - thus Italy.

Now from what does Italian geographical area stems from? Is it a political or physical term? I would suggest that it is a nonsense term.

Now, the Slovenian regions or French departments are clearly a political geography and as internal are they not so interesting for other countries.

If you would suggest that Italian geographical area stems from a political geography, then why does it include Slovenia? Are there historical reasons for it? Are there current reasons for it? Etc.

If you would suggest that it stems from physical geography, then what is the definition for it? Fauna and Flora? Peninsula? Geomorphology?

Do you see my point?
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The Italian peninsula is only the dark-green area.
It says "Greatest extent of the Italian peninsula (Italian geographic region)."
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Anyway, the largest width of Slovenia is about 115 km. (through a point SW of Trebnje)
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Old December 12th, 2014, 06:38 AM   #29359
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Italy, Austria and Serbia have the same incircle radius
Lithuania and Czech Republic have almost the same as those three
How do you find this?
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Old December 12th, 2014, 10:23 AM   #29360
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As far as I recollect the geographical terms are stemming either from physical geography as e.g. geomorphology - thus Apennines peninsula. Or from human geography, such as political geography - thus Italy.

Now from what does Italian geographical area stems from? Is it a political or physical term? I would suggest that it is a nonsense term.

Now, the Slovenian regions or French departments are clearly a political geography and as internal are they not so interesting for other countries.

If you would suggest that Italian geographical area stems from a political geography, then why does it include Slovenia? Are there historical reasons for it? Are there current reasons for it? Etc.

If you would suggest that it stems from physical geography, then what is the definition for it? Fauna and Flora? Peninsula? Geomorphology?

Do you see my point?
Everyone agrees in the existence of geographical regions such the Iberian peninsula (Spain+Portugal+Andorra+Gibraltar), British Isles (UK+Ireland+Man+Jersey+Alderney+Guersey+Sark), Scandinavia (Norway+Sweden), ecc... It doesn't mean that Spain wants to annex Portugal, the UK wants to annex Ireland or Sweden wants to annex Norway. It's just a mere geographical definition. I don't see why the "Italian geographical region", who includes most of Italy, chunks of Switzerland, Slovenia, Croatia and France and microstates (San Marino, Vatican, Monaco and Malta) upset many people and it's seen has having political (Greater Italy, Irridentism) connotations.
Moreover, the current I-SLO border is less than 70 years old and it doesn't follow any natural feature (watershed, river). Why should someone choose it as a boundary for a geographical (i.e. physical) region?

Here you have:
Muncipalities not included in the Italian Republic belonging to the Italian geographical region.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuni_...afica_italiana
Municipalities included in the Italian Republic not included in the Italian geographical region.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuni_...afica_italiana
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