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Old December 12th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #29381
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1) How did Greece come into it?
Never mind. Better question is: why is Monaco included?

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2) "Width" to me implies east-to-west. I would say that Illinois, which is considerably longer north and south than it is east and west, is X miles (or km if you insist) wide by measuring the distance from the eastern border to the westernmost point on the Mississippi side. I'd likewise say that Kansas is X miles wide by measuring it from east to west, even though in that case the east-west measurement is much larger than the north-south.
Oh, it's that childish definition of width. It's the other way around here: east-west is length (dolžina), north-south is width (širina). Anyway, what I mean is the shortest distance from border to border (including coastline). There's no point in Slovenia where the shortest distance from border to border would be 138 km.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 10:11 PM   #29382
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If it's part of the "extended" Italian Peninsula, then it's fine with me (not sure about hofburg though ). Koper or Postojna OTOH...
As eastern boundary of the Italian geographical region, they chose Fusine-Predil-Triglav-just east of Ijdria, just east of Postojna-Slivnica-Sneznik-Bakar. This boundary (except in the Julian Alps), is not clearly marked by a watershed, so drawing a geographical border is difficult and controversial. Something like the Euro-Asian border within Russia. However, geographers make a decision considering different aspects and people accept it.

BTW, if you look at Penisola Balcanica in the Italian Wikipedia, you'll find a map that is in clear contraddiction with the definition of Italian geographical region:

Isn't weird to think as Trieste being part of the Balkan area and Novi Sad not belonging to it?
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Old December 12th, 2014, 10:33 PM   #29383
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Isn't weird to think as Trieste being part of the Balkan area and Novi Sad not belonging to it?
It's probably because peninsula is land surrounded with water on three sides, and the Danube, Isonzo and Vipacco/Vipava are also waters, not just seas are.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 11:12 PM   #29384
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It's probably because peninsula is land surrounded with water on three sides, and the Danube, Isonzo and Vipacco/Vipava are also waters, not just seas are.
Yes, but the sea from Trieste to Tulcea is enough to make the Balkan area a peninsula. However, from most people: Balkan=ExYu+AL+RO+BG. Geographically it's obviously wrong, thus.
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Old December 12th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #29385
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It does look like a peninsula, no?

PS: leave me out of it, I'm an islander
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Old December 13th, 2014, 02:09 AM   #29386
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Everything what is southern from the Danube is on Balkan.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #29387
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Everything what is southern from the Danube is on Balkan.
Since I leave South of the Danube in Ingolstadt, I must be in the Balkans too
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Old December 13th, 2014, 02:24 AM   #29388
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Isn't weird to think as Trieste being part of the Balkan area and Novi Sad not belonging to it?
this map is exclusively by geographical defition, and not political, one of key Balkans geographic elements are Dinaric alps, which start as north as, well me , and Panonian basin (where Novi Sad lies, for exemple) isn't included in geographical Balkan (but partly in political).
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Old December 13th, 2014, 02:26 AM   #29389
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Since I leave South of the Danube in Ingolstadt, I must be in the Balkans too
You know what i mean
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Old December 13th, 2014, 10:27 AM   #29390
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Old December 13th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #29391
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Abusive occupation of public soil and disruption of public services are already criminal offences in most countries and are normally pushed with fines.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 12:07 PM   #29392
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Good morning fellows, idk if this is the right place, but since a few days no posted (embedded) videos show up to me, i just see plain text in the postings. Pictures show up normally. Happens in different threads, i use Firefox 34, could it be caused by the Flashblock Addon?

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Old December 13th, 2014, 12:21 PM   #29393
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Well, what do YOU think about whether Nova Gorica can be considered part of the "Italian geographical area" (in the language of your choice)?
I will try to make it clear, but I am afraid it will be more nebulous. First of all, there are many many points of view:

One example: Great Britain, British Isles and stuff.
Not every boundary must be sharp and obvious.'Balkan' is a very good example to clarify:
You can perceive this term in terms of geology, culture or simply aligned to countries or subregions for press purposes.

By no means there is something like Italian geographic area or space. Generally geographic area is an inconceivably complex space you can divide in multiple ways in different levels.

Sometimes, scientists (even within one country or institute) can't agree on some issues.

Examples: from geologic point of view some authors assume that certain parts of Hungary are parts of Balkan. Note this is impossible to tell in terms of culture! Serbia is generally located on Balkan peninsula but in fact, Vojvodina is outside Balkan cultural area.

The cultural area is also tricky. Let's imagine Slovakia. Are we part of Hungarian cultural area? Of course. Are we part of German cultural area? Yes. Are we part of Slavic cultural area? Yes. Aren't we poart of North-atlantic cultural area? Yes we are. So tell me what cultural area are we members? You can't tell exactly.

Another good example is Greece. The country is located on Peloponnese peninsula. Peloponnese peninsula is part of Balkan peninsula. Thus literally, Greece lies on Balkan. But nobody refers to Greece as Balkan. Have you ever asked yourself why? Because Greece, despite the geologic point of view, is not Balkan cultural area. Furthermore Greeks themselves does not like consider as Balkans due to bloodshed there they had nothing to do with.

Sometimes experts, having Greece and the rest of Balkan in mind, refer to 'southeastern Europe'. But in geologic point of view, European part of Turkey is part thereof too.

Complicated as hell.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 01:29 PM   #29395
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Sadly yes . Thanks to that fascist government we have. But next year we'll throw them away .
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Old December 13th, 2014, 03:59 PM   #29398
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this map is exclusively by geographical defition, and not political, one of key Balkans geographic elements are Dinaric alps, which start as north as, well me , and Panonian basin (where Novi Sad lies, for exemple) isn't included in geographical Balkan (but partly in political).
Karlovac lies on the Balkan Peninsula and in the Pannonian Basin at the same time.

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By no means there is something like Italian geographic area or space.
There, it's all clear now.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 04:03 PM   #29399
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Abusive occupation of public soil and disruption of public services are already criminal offences in most countries and are normally pushed with fines.
This seems to go beyond that.
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This seems to go beyond that.
Yes, some points of that list are eccessive, but many other are already a reality everywhere.
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