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Old January 5th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #29781
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I like Louis Prima's version of that song. I became a fan of that song since watching that scene with Robert de Niro at a crime scene in a bar with a dead body. He's in a good mood because he had sex the night before, so he throws a coin in the juke box and plays "just a gigolo" and dances with it

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Old January 5th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #29782
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Old January 5th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #29783
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From downtown Chicago to which shit hole?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 02:30 AM   #29784
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BIH.

I don't know really, I was 8 in 1991. I probably felt closest to Croats, although there were many pupils from all over Yugoslavia in my school. Almost all of them spoke Slovenian, so they didn't appear that different (except for having more fights ). I hardly had any connections with Italians, Austrians or Hungarians, so I didn't feel close to them. I don't remember Austria at all, and I remember Italy as a chaotic place where I could get lost in a second. Boat trip from Portoro˛ to Venice in 1990 was epic though.
Can you speak Serbo-Croat?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #29785
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Yes, I speak Serbo-Croatian fluently.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 03:38 AM   #29786
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knowledge of ancient languages is sometimes welcome.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 11:39 AM   #29787
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You posted a picture of yourself once, in a mountain setting, in which you seemed tall.
Camera magic 😀

I'm 5'7".
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Old January 6th, 2015, 01:50 PM   #29788
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Did (international) linguists recognize the existence of a Serbo-Croatian (or Czecho-Slovakian) language or it was merely a political definition?
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 02:53 PM   #29789
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I always saw Serbo-Croatian treated as such until Yugoslavia broke up. (Although I remember Cassells offered a "Croatian-English" dictionary.)

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian.

Here's something interesting:

"Serbo-Croatian was standardized in the mid-19th century by a joint effort of Croatian and Serbian writers and philologists, decades before a Yugoslav state was established.[8] From the very beginning, there were slightly different literary Serbian and Croatian standards, though both based on the same Shtokavian subdialect, Eastern Herzegovinian. In the 20th century, Serbo-Croatian served as the official language of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (when it was called "Serbo-Croato-Slovenian"),...."
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Old January 6th, 2015, 03:35 PM   #29790
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Did (international) linguists recognize the existence of a Serbo-Croatian (or Czecho-Slovakian) language or it was merely a political definition?
Czecho-Slovakian language is rather mere political definition. We use different words and even grammar and pronunciation is different. There are even some phonemes in each language that people from other language can't pronounce correctly (Czech ů or ř or Slovak ä or ō).

Slovak language is younger and is rather influenced by Hungarian language while Czech language is rather influenced by German.

There had been some people (poets, politicians) who recognized Slovakia only as significant dialect.

I guess the difference between Slovak and Czech language is something like between Slovenian and Serb/Croatian or Macedonian language.

Btw. do Italians understand little bit or at least grammar of Romanian language?
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@Penn's:
Serbian and Croatian languages have been developing parallely up to 19th century, first half of which brang reformations of both - Serbian in 1814 and Croatian in 1830.
that year 1850 was really the first official try to make "pan-south-slavic" language. however, was it successful? not at all. why? because after that all 3 implied languages continued their developments in 3 different and separate ways (Slovenian (which was also involved), Croatian and Serbian). so that agreement was actually very unsuccessful. officialy Serbo-Croatian language was approved in 1954.

UK is going to be very very upset as soon as he appears here.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 04:14 PM   #29792
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Czecho-Slovakian language is rather mere political definition. We use different words and even grammar and pronunciation is different. There are even some phonemes in each language that people from other language can't pronounce correctly (Czech ů or ř or Slovak ä or ō).

Slovak language is younger and is rather influenced by Hungarian language while Czech language is rather influenced by German.

There had been some people (poets, politicians) who recognized Slovakia only as significant dialect.

I guess the difference between Slovak and Czech language is something like between Slovenian and Serb/Croatian or Macedonian language.

Btw. do Italians understand little bit or at least grammar of Romanian language?
I never knew all that about "Czecho-Slovak."
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I think I'm going to take a break again and make myself scarce for a bit, like I did last winter. Bye folks, perhaps see you in spring...
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Old January 6th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #29794
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Seriously?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 04:41 PM   #29795
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UK is going to be very very upset as soon as he appears here.
Why would anyone care about that?
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Old January 6th, 2015, 05:08 PM   #29796
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He doesn't like it when we talk about languages. Particularly Eastern European ones.
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Old January 6th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #29797
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Why would anyone care about that?
well it's a pitty not to have such a forumer here. but who are we to judge him? he has free will what to do
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Btw. do Italians understand little bit or at least grammar of Romanian language?
Romanian is probably the Neo-Latin language more different from our. Only few random words can be understood.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old January 6th, 2015, 06:10 PM   #29799
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It should be more understandable, but I think a big problem is also when we speak fast, we have a different pronunciation, sometimes more similar to Slavic language (Serbian, Bulgarian influence). Of course we have many words of Slavic origin, but the gross is still Latin (French, Italian). For some words, we have both Latin and Slavic variants.

I think as an Italian, Spaniard, French, Portuguese, learning Romanian would not be very difficult, just live around locals for a few months and you would speak it pretty well. I know of cases.

I find Italian and Spanish (Latin American better understandable) easier to understand, then French, then Portuguese (and here, Brazilian better understandable).

I was amazed the last days that I spent in Puglia, by how much I was able to understand, also to speak very basic (with mistakes of course, but understandable)
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