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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #30481
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Well, that's all right then.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 08:52 PM   #30482
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"Square" as in "eight square meters" and "square" as in "eight meters square" are two different words in Italian
Let me get it straight - eight square meters = 8 m^2 and eight meters square is one square with side of 8 meters, thus with area of 64 m^2. Right?
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #30483
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"Square" as in "eight square meters" and "square" as in "eight meters square" are two different words in Italian
Math is difficult.

A few years ago, the Member of Parliament Annika Lapintie made a public proposal that all nine seaside counties on the Baltic Sea would decrease their waste water discharges into the sea by 4 per cent. As a result, that would make a total decrease of 36 per cent. Therefore, the Baltic Sea would be saved quite easily.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:19 PM   #30484
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Math is difficult.

A few years ago, the Member of Parliament Annika Lapintie made a public proposal that all nine seaside counties on the Baltic Sea would decrease their waste water discharges into the sea by 4 per cent. As a result, that would make a total decrease of 36 per cent. Therefore, the Baltic Sea would be saved quite easily.
Lots of people don't know the difference between per cents and percentualage points
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:37 PM   #30485
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Math is difficult.

A few years ago, the Member of Parliament Annika Lapintie made a public proposal that all nine seaside counties on the Baltic Sea would decrease their waste water discharges into the sea by 4 per cent. As a result, that would make a total decrease of 36 per cent. Therefore, the Baltic Sea would be saved quite easily.
And imagine if that sea had 26 nations at its coasts!
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:42 PM   #30486
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How would you say "eight meters square"? Which is a square eight meters on each side, thus 64 square meters.
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"Square" as in "eight square meters" and "square" as in "eight meters square" are two different words in Italian
in the other words - it is just word order. in english adjective stands before the noun. in italian adjective stands after the noun. (please don't ban me for language discussion)
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Old February 9th, 2015, 09:47 PM   #30487
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Hmmm. I might analyze the expression "a space eight meters square" as if "square" is the adjective and "eight meters" is the adverbial phrase modifying it.

You could say "an eight-meter-square space" and it would mean the same thing. But "an eight-square-meter space" would be the smaller one. And note the singular "meter." Don't ask my why, and I think "an eight-meters-square space" would be acceptable if not obligatory outside North America.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:04 PM   #30488
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Sorry, I had to write "8 square meters" instead of "8 meters square", I did a transation mistake. I mean an area of 8m^2, that is smaller than an area of 3m x 3m (9m^2).
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #30489
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in italian adjective stands after the noun.
Not always. Italy is the "bel paese", not the "paese bello"...
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #30490
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Hmmm. I might analyze the expression "a space eight meters square" as if "square" is the adjective and "eight meters" is the adverbial phrase modifying it.

You could say "an eight-meter-square space" and it would mean the same thing. But "an eight-square-meter space" would be the smaller one. And note the singular "meter." Don't ask my why, and I think "an eight-meters-square space" would be acceptable if not obligatory outside North America.
8-meter-square is quite uncommon to say here (and in Italy too I'd say).
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #30491
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Sorry, I had to write "8 square meters" instead of "8 meters square", I did a transation mistake. I mean an area of 8m^2, that is smaller than an area of 3m x 3m (9m^2).
You were right; I was just wondering if the Italian expression might be ambiguous.
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Not always. Italy is the "bel paese", not the "paese bello"...
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(now you explain him why is it bel paese, and not bello paese )
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #30493
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(now you explain him why is it bel paese, and not bello paese )
Because Italy's so beautiful it doesn't need a full word to describe itself. (Supa-bitch!!)
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Old February 9th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #30494
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8-meter-square is quite uncommon to say here (and in Italy too I'd say).
In Italian 8m^2 is: 8 metri quadri (colloquial) or 8 metri quadrati (more scientifically correct).
m^2 is also abbreviated as mq here.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 11:48 PM   #30495
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In Italian 8m^2 is: 8 metri quadri (colloquial) or 8 metri quadrati (more scientifically correct).
m^2 is also abbreviated as mq here.
It is same here: osem metrov štvrocových is like eight metres of square. We should definitely ask for language topic

Btw. I like how some idioms are similiar while others not. Like we say Som do teba which literally means I am into you. But There is no smoke without a fire we translate to Without a wind there is no moving leaf.
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Romanian president, Klaus Iohannis, landing in Paris. He wasn't escorted by anyone to the car, then he took his jacket off, waited for one of the delegates to take it and second him in the car. After seeing that nobody moves an inch he dropped the jacket on the car and got alone inside...

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Old February 10th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #30497
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Slovenian trolling on Italian Google Maps: river Soča (instead of Isonzo) in Italy???
https://www.google.it/maps/place/Sta...b13bbc16001762
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #30498
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Slovenian trolling on Italian Google Maps: river Soča (instead of Isonzo) in Italy???
https://www.google.it/maps/place/Sta...b13bbc16001762
Croatian trolling on Slovenian Google Maps: Rijeka Sava instead of Reka Sava in Slovenia???
https://www.google.si/maps/@46.2674281,14.3053732,13z



It's probably just an error.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:33 PM   #30499
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I also saw "Rijeka Sava" in Serbia.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 11:39 PM   #30500
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Croatian trolling on Slovenian Google Maps: Rijeka Sava instead of Reka Sava in Slovenia???
https://www.google.si/maps/@46.2674281,14.3053732,13z



It's probably just an error.
Romanian trolling on Slovak Google Maps: Dunărea instead of Dunaj in Bratislava??

https://www.google.sk/maps/@48.12963...0215,14z?hl=sk

Filthy Romanians, I bet they want to re-establish the Romanian Empire
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