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Old February 23rd, 2015, 01:06 AM   #30681
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degrees Reaumur for all!
Interesting, I've never heard of this scale before. Aparently, it was widely used in Europe till the mid-1800, when it began being replaced by Celsius.
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Its only modern use is in the measuring of milk temperature in cheese production. It is used in some Italian dairies making Parmigiano-Reggiano and Grana Padano cheeses and in Swiss Alp cheeses. In the Netherlands the Réaumur thermometer is used when cooking sugar syrup for desserts and sweets.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 01:37 AM   #30682
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Celsius is still dumb though... you make a scale where the actual zero is minus 273 degrees... it is nonsense.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 02:25 AM   #30683
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Celsius is still dumb though... you make a scale where the actual zero is minus 273 degrees... it is nonsense.
It's probably because the system was intended to be used for everyday temperatures, rather for extremely low ones that exist only in physics. And I'm not even sure if the idea of "absolute zero" already existed when the Celsius scale was introduced. In fact, Kelvin scale is usually adopted in today's scientific speech.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 08:28 AM   #30684
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I'm sure there's a part of 'rest of the world' which writes dates on an inverted pyramid (Year-month-day) style .
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 10:32 AM   #30685
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It's probably because the system was intended to be used for everyday temperatures, rather for extremely low ones that exist only in physics. And I'm not even sure if the idea of "absolute zero" already existed when the Celsius scale was introduced. In fact, Kelvin scale is usually adopted in today's scientific speech.
The Celcius scale has been in use since 1744. Lord Kelvin published his paper proposing an absolute temperature scale in 1848. The Kelvin scale uses one degree Celcius as an increment. Thus, the Kelvin scale is based on the Celcius scale, not vice versa.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 11:04 AM   #30686
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Celsius is still dumb though... you make a scale where the actual zero is minus 273 degrees... it is nonsense.
I see, you have been already given the explanation for it.

We are still quite anthropocentric in our perception of the world and I don't think that it is all that wrong actually as long as it stays mathematically simple and practical. I am not so sure that it would be that handy to have different apparatus for the science world and for the daily use when you can use the same while keeping it efficient.

It makes perfect sense making the most important point on the scale the point when water turns into ice and scale the measure towards the point when water turns into vapor given the atmospheric pressure. As our bodies are more than 70 % water those are rather critical temperatures for us.

The time follows quite similar pattern here. Years, days, months, are both quite geocentric and anthropocentric measures.

With other measures we were able to go into more abstraction and we thus left the pounds and yards, feet and inches. Notice also that the seconds are split in 10ths and 100ths etc as they are rather abstract concepts and they make computations easier.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 11:16 AM   #30687
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American dates make perfect sense to me. Try to name few documents and name them after dates when they've been done. American way will arrange them in alphanumerical order: 150118, 150130, 150218, 150222. European way will arrange it messy: 180115, 180215, 220215, 300115.

Also about temperature - Kelvin system seems to be the most logical one imo.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 01:25 PM   #30688
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American dates make perfect sense to me. Try to name few documents and name them after dates when they've been done. American way will arrange them in alphanumerical order: 150118, 150130, 150218, 150222. European way will arrange it messy: 180115, 180215, 220215, 300115.
AFAIK American style is month/day/year, which completely lacks logic. However, despite logic in EU style, it is completely useless and needs to be backed up. The best format would be year/month/day.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 01:26 PM   #30689
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American dates make perfect sense to me. Try to name few documents and name them after dates when they've been done. American way will arrange them in alphanumerical order: 150118, 150130, 150218, 150222. European way will arrange it messy: 180115, 180215, 220215, 300115.

Also about temperature - Kelvin system seems to be the most logical one imo.
Hmm? US MMDDYYYY dates:

01102011
02102011
02122011
30102011

It doesn't bring any advantage compared with DDMMYYYY. If you want to name documents to be sorted by time, you need to begin with the year, then month and then days. It is quite standard to use YYYY-MM-DD.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 02:10 PM   #30690
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Hungarians use year/month/day format, so if the date is written in European way, they put a note "day/month/year", especially at food package.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 04:35 PM   #30691
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Hungarians use year/month/day format, so if the date is written in European way, they put a note "day/month/year", especially at food package.
Lithuania, along with Hungary, are the only countries in Europe that use such format.

World map of the countries with the different formats
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 05:47 PM   #30692
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How come this post who started it hasn't been deleted but everything else has?
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 05:49 PM   #30693
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AFAIK American style is month/day/year, which completely lacks logic. However, despite logic in EU style, it is completely useless and needs to be backed up. The best format would be year/month/day.
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Hmm? US MMDDYYYY dates:

01102011
02102011
02122011
30102011

It doesn't bring any advantage compared with DDMMYYYY. If you want to name documents to be sorted by time, you need to begin with the year, then month and then days. It is quite standard to use YYYY-MM-DD.
oh, crap. in that case - Penn's, I'm really sorry
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 07:04 PM   #30694
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How come this post who started it hasn't been deleted but everything else has?
Apparently this sort of crap* is more acceptable than saying it's stupid is. Duly noted.

*I mean, of course, the original post.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 07:23 PM   #30695
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I'm going to the USA this summer, and I'm now in the process of booking a rental car. It is tricky the tradeoff between larger cars and the extra fuel they will use. There is a special sale for hybrid cars but I think hybrids are not that economical for long road drives.
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 07:46 PM   #30696
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How come this post who started it hasn't been deleted but everything else has?
do you need an explanation?
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Can we go back to the off-topic, please?
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 08:38 PM   #30698
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 08:42 PM   #30699
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Explanations on private. Whoever continues this here gets a brig.

Back on topic please (how much on topic this thread can be...).
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Old February 23rd, 2015, 08:51 PM   #30700
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Aaaaaaand next, clean, page...
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