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Old May 10th, 2015, 04:04 PM   #31501
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Gosh, that was scary. I have no idea why the guy didn't brake, but it would've been much better to hit the first car at low speed.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 08:48 PM   #31502
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Could be the car is an automatic, so no clutch and take out of gear, still there is N.
and this is really easy, usually there is no "lock" between D and N unlike say, N and R, so you only need to hit the stick not even press the button or do anything careful
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Old May 10th, 2015, 08:50 PM   #31503
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Antwerp is on the banner today. At least I've learned that this city has an English name :-)
I visited Antwerp last week, here are some photos:
- City
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I have never seen in Europe so many foreigners, Asian, Black, Arab people, many of them in traditional tribal clothes. I am not any way racist, however, sometimes I felt myself being in minority by being white and European, which was really weird.
I had a friendly Nigerian taxi driver once in Antwerpen, I remember wondering, why here? I could understand if in London or french-African guy in Bruxelles but Antwerpen maybe Nigerian pidgin patois is sufficiently incomprehensible that it is the same as Flemish
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Old May 10th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #31504
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One can still add destinations to a route in the new Google Maps, though it needs to have one route in before adding a new goal. Here is an example where I combined some running gags I have:
Walqa tech park to Parque Goya: I jokingly say that Walqa, a tech park near Huesca, is already in Zaragoza. The opposite is true for Parque Goya, a neighborhood in Zaragoza.
Parque Goya to Rosales del Canal: From one side of Zaragoza to the other. I jokingly say this route takes longer than the one above. While this is false by car, I have proven it true by bus, as there is no direct connection from Rosales del Canal to the city center via the old Madrid road, instead forcing one to detour via Montecanal on line 41 or even down to Valdespartera on line 54 and the tram.
Rosales del Canal to Ariza: This is related to the surprise appearance of two cases of the same ultra rare disease in the same province. They currently account for two thirds of all cases in Spain, not bad when there are only three of them. On a side note, I have actual and literally driven the other way round (That's it, Ariza to Rosales).
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Old May 10th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #31505
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I think the 2000s are over, using mobile internet abroad has no more astronomical prices, especially inside the EU.
Vodafone Italy, which has the best offer for data roaming in Italy, charges 3€ per day for 500 MB when you are abroad.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 11:27 PM   #31506
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Vodafone Italy, which has the best offer for data roaming in Italy, charges 3€ per day for 500 MB when you are abroad.
Nice! It mades a lot of data (probably much more than you need, even while traveling ), but the price is excellent.

Another proof that phone providers can do such offer without loosing money and they really need to be less greedy on roaming!
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Old May 11th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #31507
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Meanwhile in Italy: a wild bear escaped from its natural habitat in the Alps was found wandering in Villesse mall parking lot:



http://ilpiccolo.gelocal.it/trieste/...kea-1.11380389
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old May 11th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #31508
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You wanted them, we gave them. Don't complain now.

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Old May 11th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #31509
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Dutch providers charge € 0.05 per megabyte in another EU country...
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Nice! It mades a lot of data (probably much more than you need, even while traveling ), but the price is excellent.

Another proof that phone providers can do such offer without loosing money and they really need to be less greedy on roaming!
500 MB for 3 euro is just 0.006 € per MB, ten times less than what Dutch providers charge. Is it possible? It seems way too different.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #31510
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T-Mobile Slovakia = 0,24 EUR/ 1 MB
I can buy a packages:
XS 20 MB = 2 EUR
M 100 MB = 5 EUR
XL 500 MB = 15 EUR
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Old May 11th, 2015, 01:44 PM   #31511
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I heard that the EU wants to cut all Roaming tariffs inside EU starting December 2015. That means you will use your mobile in all EU countries as you would use it in your own country.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #31512
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I heard that the EU wants to cut all Roaming tariffs inside EU starting December 2015. That means you will use your mobile in all EU countries as you would use it in your own country.
That proposal was not ratified. Everything is postponed at least to 2018.

http://www.gsmarena.com/roaming_fees...news-11463.php
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Old May 11th, 2015, 01:52 PM   #31513
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I heard that the EU wants to cut all Roaming tariffs inside EU starting December 2015. That means you will use your mobile in all EU countries as you would use it in your own country.
Unfortunatly, due to a massive lobbying from Europeans network operators on European Parliement, the mesure has been postponed to the end of 2018.

They want to keep their "cash cow" as long as possible, although this is of course at the expense of users who pay unfairly...

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Old May 11th, 2015, 02:05 PM   #31514
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Unfortunatly, due to a massive lobbying from Europeans phone providers on European Parliement, the mesure has been postponed to the end of 2018.

They want to keep their "cash cow" as long as possible, although this is of course at the expense of users who pay unfairly...
Not phone providers but network operators.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #31515
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Not phone providers but network operators.
Exact, network operators ! It's just a bad translation, I thought that it was the correct translation...

"Cell phone providers" could be correct too?
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Old May 11th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #31516
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in T-mobile Croatia we have 3 options: 10MB in 1 day for 2€, 50MB in 3 days for 6,60€ or 150MB in 7 days for 13,15€
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Old May 11th, 2015, 04:01 PM   #31517
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Another proof that phone providers can do such offer without loosing money and they really need to be less greedy on roaming!
Today I read that American providers earn $ 50 billion every year because of the unused data that remains at the end of the month.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 04:12 PM   #31518
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When I was in Spain, I bought a local prepaid SIM card from Lebara with 10€ and 1GB included for the first month (Internet flat only).

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500 MB for 3 euro is just 0.006 € per MB, ten times less than what Dutch providers charge. Is it possible? It seems way too different.
For how many days is this option active?
Maybe I should consider buying an Italian SIM card

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Old May 11th, 2015, 05:13 PM   #31519
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For how many days is this option active?
Maybe I should consider buying an Italian SIM card
As long as you like, you only pay for days when roaming is activated in your phone. If you don't want to pay the three euro, you just have to deactivate roaming in your phone before midnight.
It is called "Vodafone Smart Passport":

http://www.vodafone.it/portal/Privat...SMART-Passport

PS: Better yet, Internet is limitless! After 500 MB they just reduce speed to 32 kbps.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 05:28 PM   #31520
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Have to buy a smartphone, I have never had one
We have a tablet and usually use that, but I see for tablets it's 6€ per day.

Are there no flat-rates for a week, month or such?

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Which prepaid option would you recommend for when inside Italy?
Something that you can recharge before you will come to Italy and just use it.

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