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Old May 11th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #31521
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In the Netherlands you will have to buy a bundle for a week or a month for all EU countries + Switzerland / Norway. Dutch operator KPN charges € 5 for 100 mb/week or € 10 for 200 mb/month. Quite expensive, though not as bad as a few years ago. However, if you don't pick a bundle / data plan they charge € 0.25/mb.

I'm planning a trip next month and I have selected a number of campsites, and they often offer free wifi. That way I don't have to use as much roaming data.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 05:47 PM   #31522
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You cannot edit Google Maps at the moment because an Android robot was peeing on an Apple logo in Google Maps........

source: CNN.
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Which new motorways are currently under construction?
Which new motorways will be opened next?

See 'New motorway projects' thread

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Old May 11th, 2015, 07:18 PM   #31523
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As long as you like, you only pay for days when roaming is activated in your phone. If you don't want to pay the three euro, you just have to deactivate roaming in your phone before midnight.
It is called "Vodafone Smart Passport":

http://www.vodafone.it/portal/Privat...SMART-Passport

PS: Better yet, Internet is limitless! After 500 MB they just reduce speed to 32 kbps.
32 kbps, limitless? But I guess that it's still good to get some necesary informations instead of being disconnected...

In France some operators limit the speed at 128kbps once you've reached your fair use, that 4 times faster!


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Have to buy a smartphone, I have never had one
We have a tablet and usually use that, but I see for tablets it's 6€ per day.

Are there no flat-rates for a week, month or such?
You never had a smartphone ?

It's so great to have everything in this small object in your hands : internet access (when you need informations in a place that you don't know and where there nobody...), GPS navigation even with offline maps, the ability to make good photos/videos without having to carry a big camera, to have all your favorite music everywhere, to have some great games, also some nice applications that provide you usefull informations (ex : news, weather,...), etc...
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Old May 11th, 2015, 07:25 PM   #31524
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kbps is a kilobit. That's not the same as a kilobyte. You can't download 32 kilobyte per second at a 32 kbps download. There's a factor 8 difference. 32 kbps means 4 kilobytes per second. Or 1 mp3 song every half hour. Viva la 1990s.

My cable internet has a 120 mbps download speed. But that's 15 megabyte per second, not 120 as many people think.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #31525
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To limit the confusion, you should use "octet" (1 octet = 8 bits) witch is correct in english.

In french we use the octet in usual language, it's easier to make the difference !
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Old May 11th, 2015, 08:25 PM   #31526
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kbps is a kilobit. That's not the same as a kilobyte. You can't download 32 kilobyte per second at a 32 kbps download. There's a factor 8 difference. 32 kbps means 4 kilobytes per second. Or 1 mp3 song every half hour. Viva la 1990s.
I fail to see the need to download a song on your smartphone while abroad.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 08:30 PM   #31527
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I fail to see the need to download a song on your smartphone while abroad.
It was probably just a way to show what 32kbps actually is in the way of download speed.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #31528
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Yep. Just open one forum page with such speed. It will take ages. You can't do much with such speed today, with all the heavy internet pages and applications.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 10:25 PM   #31529
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Have to buy a smartphone, I have never had one
you know, i was suspecting that 10 days ago when you prefered calling me instead of typing messages
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Old May 11th, 2015, 10:44 PM   #31530
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kbps is a kilobit. That's not the same as a kilobyte. You can't download 32 kilobyte per second at a 32 kbps download. There's a factor 8 difference.
For the payload, the factor typically is close to 10 rather than being exactly 8. That is because the payload is packaged into "a digital envelope" containing transmission protocol data such as addresses and checksums. Thus, if you need to transmit 1 megabyte of data in a second, about 10 megabits per second of bandwidth is required.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 10:49 PM   #31531
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Interesting note, there haven't been any recorded motorway openings between 22 April and 12 May. That's three weeks. I haven't recorded such a lull in motorway openings in 5 years.

Of course, there could be something I missed, particularly in Brazil or Russia. On the other hand most Brazilian dual carriageways are not full-standard motorways.
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Old May 11th, 2015, 11:13 PM   #31532
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You follow the construction of all of them? Huge work!!!
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Old May 12th, 2015, 12:13 AM   #31533
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You follow the construction of all of them? Huge work!!!
Yes, Chris follows all of them for the Dutch road Wiki (click) and for the SSC motorway openings thread (click).

Really massive props to him for doing so. There's no way I'd be able to keep up with all of that for such a long period of time (the Dutch Road wiki data starts in february of 2010!)
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Yes, Chris follows all of them for the Dutch road Wiki (click) and for the SSC motorway openings thread (click).

Really massive props to him for doing so. There's no way I'd be able to keep up with all of that for such a long period of time (the Dutch Road wiki data starts in february of 2010!)
I see, thanks for the links!

I'm really impressed, it's a huge work!!
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Old May 12th, 2015, 01:26 AM   #31535
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Exact, network operators ! It's just a bad translation, I thought that it was the correct translation...

"Cell phone providers" could be correct too?
In Canada people say "cellphone provider" all the time. But most people (90%?) buy the phone and service from the same company at the same time.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 08:15 AM   #31536
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Okay, thanks for these informations!
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Old May 12th, 2015, 09:59 AM   #31537
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Okay, thanks for these informations!
one more tip: information doesn't have plural form
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Old May 12th, 2015, 11:35 AM   #31538
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Yep. Just open one forum page with such speed. It will take ages. You can't do much with such speed today, with all the heavy internet pages and applications.
Agreed. But then you have 500 MB at full speed before that. I guess the 32 kbps limitation is useful to receive emails and the important stuff.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #31539
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Either way googlemaps is useless for international trips as gps navigation. because it is online only. just for trip planning, there are also other alternatives even better (viamichelin...).
I use it exclusively for streetview.
Viamichelin route planning:


...because apparently going through Russia on your way to Western Europe is a wise idea.

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I agree that there are faults with the new Google Maps: mainly the stupid alternatives and the snapping to smaller roads when zoomed out but other than that it's fine. I tried the old Google Maps for fun and it's slower and much clunkier than the new one, at least for me.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #31540
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one more tip: information doesn't have plural form
I see, thanks!

(In french we put a "s" for the plural of the word "information", that's the origin of my mistake ! )
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