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Old May 28th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #31681
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Old May 28th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #31682
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Old May 28th, 2015, 05:34 PM   #31683
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I ordered a new dashcam, the Mini 0806. It is much smaller than my current 'Scott'. It allows 2 x 32 GB memory cards, which is more convenient on long trips (32 GB means just over 4 hours of footage at 1080p).

I got the 'Scott' dashcam in early 2013, so it served me for over two years. Back in 2012-2013 they weren't as common in western Europe.

I take a netbook with me on long trips, so I can load the footage onto a hard drive instead of having to buy a dozen memory cards. The problem is that the netbook has only a USB 2 port, which means transferring 32 GB takes over an hour. But I don't feel like spending € 1000 or more on a laptop I will only use a few weeks a year. The netbook was only € 300. Last year I got over 400 GB of footage. And I only film interesting stretches (some people do loop recording, I don't care about that).
[Sorry for bringing this topic back one week later]

I've got the 0805 and I use a 64 GB card without any problems. It's a Samsung Evo MB-MP64DU2/EU, in case you're interested.

It's the first dascham I've ever owned, but I honestly expected it to be a bit better. It gets really hot after only an hour, which causes the image to be blurry. For example, this is a screenshot of a video after one hour of driving, when the camera was hot: http://i.imgur.com/itSAinq.jpg

And this is the same place a few minutes later, when the camera had already cooled down. The difference is slight, but still noticeable (ignore the drop of water): http://i.imgur.com/4Ao3v6w.jpg

Another problem is the reflections. Because of the mount, you can't put the camera lens close enough to the windscreen to avoid reflections. I've started using the 21:9 format just to avoid showing the uppermost and lowermost parts of the windscreen, where reflections are more common. Also, I have to use an exposition bias of at least +0.7EV on cloudy days because otherwise the picture looks dark (as the sky is too bright).

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I was in Spain and France last week. France was windy, ugly and boring. Spain was great .
Well, France can be awesome too . Which parts of France and Spain did you visit, if I may ask?
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Old May 28th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #31684
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So far I've filmed for 2 hours continuously on a warm and sunny day, but I haven't had any issues with overheating.

The 0806 has many more air vents, on all sides of the camera. I guess I will find out through next week. I will take my 'Scott' dashcam along just in case.

Reflection is indeed a problem with wide angle lenses. I put a dark blue fleece blanket across the entire dashboard to get rid of the reflection. The wide angle lense is better in capturing landscape and is easier on the eyes in sharp turns and on roundabouts though.

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Old May 28th, 2015, 07:35 PM   #31685
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Well, France can be awesome too . Which parts of France and Spain did you visit, if I may ask?
Of course, I was just kidding .

France: Rhone valley (A6/A7/A9) and A63/A10/A19/.../A4 Bordeaux/south of Paris/Germany. I knew that the latter would be a boring drive . It was just transit to Spain and back.

Spain: I slept in Lleida and San Sebastian. I drove A23 from Huesca to Valencia, A2/AP2 Barcelona-Madrid, A1/AP1 Madrid-San Sebastian, A15/AP68/A231/A67/A8 (Pamplona, Logrono, Santander,...) etc.

I haven't expected that Spain is so hilly!
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Old May 28th, 2015, 11:27 PM   #31686
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Afaik Spain is the most mountainous country in Europe
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Old May 29th, 2015, 01:45 AM   #31687
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Afaik Spain is the most mountainous country in Europe
Can't be more mountainous than Switzerland or Andorra.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 12:03 PM   #31688
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It depends on your definition of "montainous".
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Old May 29th, 2015, 12:37 PM   #31689
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Of course, I was just kidding .

France: Rhone valley (A6/A7/A9) and A63/A10/A19/.../A4 Bordeaux/south of Paris/Germany. I knew that the latter would be a boring drive . It was just transit to Spain and back.

Spain: I slept in Lleida and San Sebastian. I drove A23 from Huesca to Valencia, A2/AP2 Barcelona-Madrid, A1/AP1 Madrid-San Sebastian, A15/AP68/A231/A67/A8 (Pamplona, Logrono, Santander,...) etc.

I haven't expected that Spain is so hilly!
Wow, that was quite a long trip Some of those Spanish motorways can get a bit boring too, they feel like being in the middle of nowhere. I'm thinking of the A-23 around Teruel or the AP-2 from Lleida to Zaragoza.


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Can't be more mountainous than Switzerland or Andorra.
Some people in Spain say it is the second most montainous country in Europe after Switzerland, but I guess they are referring to the average elevation. According to Wikipedia, Spain comes 8th in Europe, with an average elevation of 660 m (2,165 ft) after Andorra, Armenia, Georgia, Switzerland, Montenegro, Austria and Albania.

However, I'd say that Italy or Norway for instance are more montainous, since Spain has two plateaus that "mislead" those statistics.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 12:43 PM   #31690
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I don't know if those statistics are accurate. For instance, in that page they say Italy's average altitude is 538 m, but in other pages I found 337.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 12:47 PM   #31691
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I guess one important fact is also size of a country. Switzerland or Andorra is no where near Spain .
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Old May 29th, 2015, 01:25 PM   #31692
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Average altitude is unfair to plateaus.

I need to think of a mathematically sound definition of "mountainous".

Maybe the variance on altitude taken on superimposed grids of vertical measurement equally spaced apart 100m or 1km?
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Old May 29th, 2015, 02:36 PM   #31693
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Average altitude is unfair to plateaus.

I need to think of a mathematically sound definition of "mountainous".

Maybe the variance on altitude taken on superimposed grids of vertical measurement equally spaced apart 100m or 1km?
Of course. Some areas in the American Midwest are more than 1000 meters above sea level, although they appear to be flat.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 02:38 PM   #31694
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Old May 29th, 2015, 02:46 PM   #31695
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Some of those Spanish motorways can get a bit boring too, they feel like being in the middle of nowhere. I'm thinking of the A-23 around Teruel or the AP-2 from Lleida to Zaragoza.
If you're dealing with crowded motorways at home, that can actually be a relief
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Old May 29th, 2015, 05:09 PM   #31696
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I think the idea of mountainous is about the place being hilly full of grade-roads . Plateaus are essentially flat land offset over sea level. USA, Spain, Canada, Brazil, are examples of countries with extensive plateaus.
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Wow, that was quite a long trip Some of those Spanish motorways can get a bit boring too, they feel like being in the middle of nowhere. I'm thinking of the A-23 around Teruel or the AP-2 from Lleida to Zaragoza.
A23 just south of Zaragossa was quite boring. Empty motorway but just 130km/h, always the same cars around, monotone landscape. I didn't feel relaxed there but bored.

A23 around Teruel was great because it was unexpected for me! It's not just a simple plateau but the altitude always changed by about 200 or 300 meters (~ 800-1100m). I always checked the altitude on my GPS and gazed at the landscape. Once I saw more than 10 (big) airplanes next to the motorway. First, I thought I'm dreaming. Is there an airplane plant? But there is really an airport. It was signposted at the next exit. But the "airport" didn't looked very busy though. AP7 Valencia-Tarragona was quite boring compared to A23!

I like the little unexpected things that always happen when you travel, e.g. at gas stations, hotels, supermarkets, on the road etc. You think about different things compared to always the same schedule and things at work or at home. That's relaxing.

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Some people in Spain say it is the second most montainous country in Europe after Switzerland, but I guess they are referring to the average elevation.
I agree. I didn't write "mountainous" but "hilly" because there are always (little) raisings and slopes. I'm used to drive in Germany. Germany is flat and there are less motorways over "hills". Austrian and Swiss motorways also don't change the altitude so often. If there are mountains to be crossed, there is a tunnel. Raisings and slopes are usually much longer.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #31698
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Spain: I slept in Lleida and San Sebastian. I drove A23 from Huesca to Valencia, A2/AP2 Barcelona-Madrid, A1/AP1 Madrid-San Sebastian, A15/AP68/A231/A67/A8 (Pamplona, Logrono, Santander,...) etc.

I haven't expected that Spain is so hilly!
You passed by Huesca??? You should have PMed me, I would have liked to meet you.
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Once I saw more than 10 (big) airplanes next to the motorway. First, I thought I'm dreaming. Is there an airplane plant? But there is really an airport. It was signposted at the next exit. But the "airport" didn't looked very busy though.
The Teruel aerodrome. They have turned it into an aircraft storage and repair site, a much better choice than an empty passenger airport.
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You passed by Huesca??? You should have PMed me, I would have liked to meet you.
Well, I stayed the night in Lleida (> 100km from any forumer I "know") and passed by Huesca Monday 9AM. I guess you still were in bed I thought about asking forumers from there but I was not sure.........

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The Teruel aerodrome. They have turned it into an aircraft storage and repair site, a much better choice than an empty passenger airport.
Ahh, thanks . That's why I saw so many (absolutely similar looking) planes!
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