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Old June 4th, 2015, 01:41 PM   #31741
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Hi All, first post, be gentle

My wife and I are planning our summer road trip from the UK to Finland and I'd like to try an alternative return route this year and go by the Via Baltica/Poland/Germany.

Thing is, I haven't visited much of Eastern Europe so don't have any road knowledge other than the usual scare stories! It's been very useful to read through the country threads on here!

Our plan is to spend a night in Talinn and then head from there to spend the next night in Kaunas and then on again the next day to Poznan. From there is on to Dortmund and then Calais for home. Google Maps would indicate that these are reasonable legs to plan out as we don't like to plan to drive for more than 8 hours per day.

So, a question for this group. Does this sound reasonable as a route? Are those google map timings actually fair to expect for August driving? Also, do you know how those expressway routes are for rest stops as we'll also have our dog with us in the car.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old June 4th, 2015, 01:53 PM   #31742
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There was also a public discussion about that issue in Germany earlier this year: Measles death in Germany prompts calls for mandatory vaccinations.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 07:40 PM   #31743
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I hope you are headed to cinque terre!
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Old June 4th, 2015, 08:06 PM   #31744
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Hi All, first post, be gentle

My wife and I are planning our summer road trip from the UK to Finland and I'd like to try an alternative return route this year and go by the Via Baltica/Poland/Germany.

Thing is, I haven't visited much of Eastern Europe so don't have any road knowledge other than the usual scare stories! It's been very useful to read through the country threads on here!

Our plan is to spend a night in Talinn and then head from there to spend the next night in Kaunas and then on again the next day to Poznan. From there is on to Dortmund and then Calais for home. Google Maps would indicate that these are reasonable legs to plan out as we don't like to plan to drive for more than 8 hours per day.

So, a question for this group. Does this sound reasonable as a route? Are those google map timings actually fair to expect for August driving? Also, do you know how those expressway routes are for rest stops as we'll also have our dog with us in the car.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Google says 26 hours for 2400km. It will probably be a bit longer than this, as there are no motorways for around 1000km between Warsaw and Tallinn.
https://www.google.it/maps/dir/Calai...6!2d59.4369608
I would stop in Warsaw instead of Poznan if you haven't been before. I've never been to Poland and I don't know that much about interesting sights in different cities, but usually the capital city is more interesting than a smaller city, from a touristic point of view.
If I will ever go to Finland overland, I would go one way via Poland and the Baltics and the other via the Oresund bridge and the Stockolm-Turku ferry, to visit more different cities and countries. Of course the road through the Baltics is faster and cheaper.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 10:09 PM   #31745
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Video which was uploaded by ignorant American who tries to condemn police officer in Serbia bribe. This video caused many negative reactions in Serbia and region since there is no proof of any corruption.

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Old June 4th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #31746
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Old June 4th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #31747
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But thanks for sharing the video, it's very interresting!
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #31748
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From what I'm reading in the comments the driver had to pay the regular fine on the spot because he is a foreigner (wich is also common practice in NL here, if you don't live in NL you pay immediately). The cop is just asking him to pay the fine, not to bribe him.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #31749
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His fine for speeding was 5000 dinars, or 2500 if you pay it in 8 days. You can't pay to the policeman, you have to go to post office or bank by deposit slip. American wanted to pay it on the spot, offering dinars and euros (which is not currency in Serbia), so he tried to offer bribe. Policewoman explained him the procedure. In the end policemen agreed to accept the money in the amount which he would pay in the bank (2545=2500 fine and 45 bank commission), taking the deposit slip which police gave him previously. I think he would end up much worse if he did this in America.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:03 PM   #31750
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Right, I've seen the last part of the video, and yes with the cop explaining in english, it seems more clear now : https://youtu.be/IPhYl81--fY?t=1046

It's really the guy who is wrong and try to put pressure on cops... What an idiot!

Did we know what infraction he makes?
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:16 PM   #31751
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Did we know what infraction he makes?
He was driving 150 km/h on a motorway where 120 km/h is allowed.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:55 PM   #31752
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I hope you are headed to cinque terre!
We spent the whole day there, visited all 5 villages.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #31753
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He was driving 150 km/h on a motorway where 120 km/h is allowed.
Right, so he fully deserve the fine!
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Old June 5th, 2015, 12:00 AM   #31754
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Google says 26 hours for 2400km. It will probably be a bit longer than this, as there are no motorways for around 1000km between Warsaw and Tallinn.

I would stop in Warsaw instead of Poznan if you haven't been before. I've never been to Poland and I don't know that much about interesting sights in different cities, but usually the capital city is more interesting than a smaller city, from a touristic point of view.
If I will ever go to Finland overland, I would go one way via Poland and the Baltics and the other via the Oresund bridge and the Stockolm-Turku ferry, to visit more different cities and countries. Of course the road through the Baltics is faster and cheaper.
Thanks Italystf!

Yeah, our previous route had been to take a ferry to Esbjerg, Denmark and then over the Oresund and up to Stockholm for the ferry to Helsinki. They've cancelled that ferry service now though, so we're taking Eurotunnel to Calais. On the Outward we're going via the Puttgarden ferry, then Oresund and then the ferry from Stockholm to Turku. I fancied something different for the return leg though and suggested the Baltic Route to my wife.

I didn't realise that the E67 wasn't motorway though. Do people know what the speed limits/driving conditions are like on it?

Thanks
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Old June 5th, 2015, 12:04 AM   #31755
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We spent the whole day there, visited all 5 villages.
Wonderful place
You visited at a good time - summer, midweek, before the hordes of peak season arrive.

I like the Cinque Terre, Corniglia is my favorite, though I also like Portovenere and Levanto, which are nearby.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #31756
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What an ass. In the US he'd be shot dead in five minutes.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #31757
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You visited at a good time - summer, midweek, before the hordes of peak season arrive.

I like the Cinque Terre, Corniglia is my favorite, though I also like Portovenere and Levanto, which are nearby.
I've visited the Cinque Terre in 2002, very beautiful. The village of Monterosso was badly affected by a flood a couple of years ago, I'm not sure if they have already restored everything.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 09:49 AM   #31758
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I would stop in Warsaw instead of Poznan if you haven't been before. I've never been to Poland and I don't know that much about interesting sights in different cities, but usually the capital city is more interesting than a smaller city, from a touristic point of view.
Warsaw is a "Move along, nothing to see" city. I think everything else is more interesting in Poland, especially Gdansk and Krakow. Even Poznan looks much more interesting than Warsaw according to pictures.
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Old June 5th, 2015, 10:02 AM   #31759
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Warsaw is a "Move along, nothing to see" city. I think everything else is more interesting in Poland, especially Gdansk and Krakow. Even Poznan looks much more interesting than Warsaw according to pictures.
I heard that in Krakow there's nothing more to see...
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Old June 5th, 2015, 11:29 AM   #31760
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