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Old June 21st, 2015, 01:36 PM   #31941
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The notion that Europe is green is ridiculous. To a lot of us, it looks overcrowded and dirty. I don't think a lot of Americans go to Europe to enjoy nature. We've got enough of it here. It's laudable that Europe is trying hard to be green, but you'd fallen so far you need it.
I would certainly agree that the US has more nature than Europe. This is simple, the density is rather different and the urbanisation happened in different time periods. So yes, there is much more raw nature in America than in Europe. And then, don't forget that there is Scandinavia, and there is Russia. If we would add Russia to the picture, there is quite a lot of raw nature still present in Europe.

However. If we would look at the way people live, their urban environment, their cities... I would say that Europe is quite greener than the US. And it is most certainly more environment friendly.



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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:27 PM   #31942
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What kind of "energy" are you talking about, nuclear power, wind power, solar energy, tidal energy, coal, gas,...?
I was thinking about oil/gas, who I think, is the most important energy in our continent in term of use...
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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:32 PM   #31943
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Which is quite dirty.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:39 PM   #31944
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I would certainly agree that the US has more nature than Europe. This is simple, the density is rather different and the urbanisation happened in different time periods. So yes, there is much more raw nature in America than in Europe. And then, don't forget that there is Scandinavia, and there is Russia. If we would add Russia to the picture, there is quite a lot of raw nature still present in Europe.

However. If we would look at the way people live, their urban environment, their cities... I would say that Europe is quite greener than the US. And it is most certainly more environment friendly.



Very interresting (thank you for these illustrations), but I didn't agree that (in US or Europe) low density area = raw nature. In our both continents, when it's possible, these areas are now mainly used for farming when it's possible, so for northern US states (like Dakotas for example) it may have very few population, but it's intensively used for farming... so for me it's not "raw nature"...

But yeah in the southern states like Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc... where it's hot and dry, you will find large areas of raw nature, but (in my opinion) with not a big interest compared to raw nature in wet areas. But yes by considering these kind of areas, it is certainly true that US have more raw nature than Europe!
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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:44 PM   #31945
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Which is quite dirty.
Totally!

But (in my opinion) I think that the fact that this energy is way more expensive in Europe, maybe we are a little bit less dependant of it or at least, it push us to find better alternatives or to make enconomies of this energy...
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Old June 21st, 2015, 02:48 PM   #31946
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it push us to find better alternatives or to make enconomies of this energy...
Not very successful up to now...
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Old June 21st, 2015, 05:18 PM   #31947
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That's true!

But at least we are less fossil fuel dependent in Europe : http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...?display=graph So we are on the good way, and these statistics show that we are becoming less dependent from fossil fuel faster than the US...

It's also interesting to see that compared to US, our use of energy per capita has nothing to see, we use 2-2,5 time less energy per capita than the US... : http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...?display=graph
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Old June 21st, 2015, 05:46 PM   #31948
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But at least we are less fossil fuel dependent in Europe : http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/...?display=graph So we are on the good way, and these statistics show that we are becoming less dependent from fossil fuel faster than the US...
Energy generated of gas and coal is reliable while renewable energy must be hedged against fluctuations. Nuclear energy is clean but not eco-friendly in the end.

The majority of Germans even thinks that nuclear energy is the worst kind of energy. All nuclear plants have to be deactivated by 2022. That's why new fossil-fuel power stations are built. Energy storages could also help but they had to be hugh and no one wants them.

The beloved Bavarian CSU party (= car toll party) doesn't like wind farms anymore, doesn't like new power transmission lines (both destroy the landscape; I think it's the 2nd most important CSU hustings topic) and doesn't want to store nuclear waste (while Bavaria produced the highest share within Germany, it's a new topic since last week). It's not just a party hustings, it's usually citizen-initiated. NIMBYs...

Maybe Germany is different to the rest of Europe...
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Old June 21st, 2015, 06:52 PM   #31949
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Energy generated of gas and coal is reliable while renewable energy must be hedged against fluctuations. Nuclear energy is clean but not eco-friendly in the end.

The majority of Germans even thinks that nuclear energy is the worst kind of energy. All nuclear plants have to be deactivated by 2022. That's why new fossil-fuel power stations are built. Energy storages could also help but they had to be hugh and no one wants them.

The beloved Bavarian CSU party (= car toll party) doesn't like wind farms anymore, doesn't like new power transmission lines (both destroy the landscape; I think it's the 2nd most important CSU hustings topic) and doesn't want to store nuclear waste (while Bavaria produced the highest share within Germany, it's a new topic since last week). It's not just a party hustings, it's usually citizen-initiated. NIMBYs...

Maybe Germany is different to the rest of Europe...
Yes, it's true, each renewable energy has it's problems. That's why we have to "mix" them so we can have a secure energy providing.

About nuclear, it is one of the energies who has the less short-term impact (including CO2), and if everything is done in safe conditions, mostly for wastes (like we do in France), there is no problem (in my opinion), that's why I believe that it's a good energy while we develop reneweble energy.

For me what has done Germany is stupid (sorry for this word), it's just closing his eyes in face of the situation. Using more coal like they will do will solve nothing, the short term impact of this decision is terrible (more CO2, more polution, etc...) and anyway they will continue to use nuclear energy as they will massively buy electricity from its neighbors like France who produce mainly from nuclear. So finaly this decision didn't solved anything I believe...

Interresting! We have the same king of problems in France, and it's even one of our old president who is still alive (Valéry Giscard d'Estaing) who have strongly criticized winds farms for also "destroying the landscape".... Hopefully he haven't got followed by many on this topic, but the installation of winds farms take too much time in France, it is so much complicated, there has been hundreds of projects who are wainting/been abandonned because of the complexity with french regulations to build such installations...
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Germans just turned Austrians in their relation to the nuclear energy. Quite regressive stances both imho.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 08:09 PM   #31951
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Interresting! We have the same king of problems in France
First I thought you lived in Winnipeg, then Arad, but apparently you live in France.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 08:10 PM   #31952
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For me what has done Germany is stupid (sorry for this word),
I'm really pissed off now! Using "stupid" is an insult to stupid people. I think Germany is crackbrained, screwball,... regarding electricity generation.

It seems that most of the Germans think that electricity comes from the socket (there's a German saying "Strom kommt aus der Steckdose").

Who cares, if there's any problem with fluctuations, just buy electricity from France or Czech Republic. And hey, it's even cheaper . Germans are really clever about energy .

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I absolutely agree .
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First I thought you lived in Winnipeg, then Arad, but apparently you live in France.
He's Canadian, born in Arad, living in France, working in SSC
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Old June 21st, 2015, 08:41 PM   #31954
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After the clinched highways site, another road-related website has died: motorways-exitlists.com
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What? It was legendary.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 09:05 PM   #31956
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It wasn't updated too often anyway.

By the way, the Clinched Highways thing is being resurrected from the AARoads forums. A sneak peak (sic.): It may use travelmapping dot net as domain.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 09:26 PM   #31957
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I am looking for a dash cam. There are hundreds of them on eBay... Mini 0806 looks like a good choice. Is it there a suction mount to it?
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Old June 21st, 2015, 09:30 PM   #31958
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A suction mount should come with it.
Seeing you live in Sheffield (UK) this wont be much of a problem for you, but keep the camera cool. When the cam gets (too) hot it might start to act little funky. Overheating seems to be the cause of many little but also more serious errors and bugs.



Maybe ChrisZwolle can share some of his experience(s) with his 0806 so far.
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Old June 21st, 2015, 09:50 PM   #31959
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The mini 0806 has no suction mount, but a fixed mount. However, the camera can be easily removed when needed. I found the mount better than the typical large suction mount of my previous dashcam 'Scott'. It requires much less space, and the camera is invisible from the driver's position.

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First I thought you lived in Winnipeg, then Arad, but apparently you live in France.


To be clear : I'm a french guy who is studying in Romania (Arad) and who has visited the US and Canada (and when I registered on SSC, I thinked about Winnipeg for no reason! )
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